JohnL

[email protected] Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello everyone MY FLU STORY > > I havent been tested for Covoid 19 but ive just > survived the worst 'flu' in my 54 years > > This is my story for your interest especially for > anyone who has even a tiny shadow of doubt about > this virus > > Monday 9th starting feeling shivery at lunchtime > hot then cold then hot then felt fine > > Tues 10th felt fine went to work - at lunchtime > got a headache and by 2pm had a temperature of > 38.8 and went home. That evening i felt weak and > terrible and went to bed with paracetamol and so > drained I could barely walk to the loo slight > annoying dry cough > > Wed 11th temperature dropped to 37.5 whilst on > paracetamol but after 5 hours would rise back up > to 38.5+ no appetite whatsoever aches and pains > all over body and terribly weak cough getting > worse and now producing phlegm - called my GP who > told me to drink water, take paracetamol and stay > home > > Thurs 12th the worst day and night with > temperature not dropping - resorted to ibuprofen > in desperation as i felt like an overheated oven > about to explode, temp 38 all day rising to 39 at > night - called 111 twice crying frightened i was > dying and told to take paracetamol and stay at > home!!!! cough got much worse and bringing up > copious amounts of dark grey mucus (Im a non > smoker btw) literally crawling to the loo and > hallucinating on the way, awful headache > > Fri 13th temperature down below 38 during the day, > dreading the evening when it rose again to 39, > only had water for 3 days now as no appetite and a > bit nauseous, holding my chest every time i > coughed as it was so painful, terrible night > hallucinating and frightened that my chest may > collapse, called 111 and held on for 45 minutes > before i gave up > > sat 14th temp ok in the day and managed to drink > some watered down orange juice and a grated apple, > coughing every 5 minutes all day which was > exhausting as the cough would last a minute each > time, no problems breathing but so tired from > coughing -i ached so much i felt like id been > beaten, my headache was awful as if id been hit by > a sledge hammer > ANOTHER awful night of high fever just horrible > > Sun 15th felt a little better during the day > drinking home made juices and smoothies as i had > no appetite - cough still bad but slightly less > often tem down during the day only to rise Again > for a 6th night running to 39 - felt so weak and > desperate to feel better and so disappointed that > i Still had a fever as the day had been ok - > contant headache > > Mon 16th exhausted and dizzy but feeling a bit > better as cough is drier and less often - temp ok > during the day and was dreading the night but only > a slight fever of 37.6 > > Tues 17th - cough improving no temperature bad > headache and body still aching as if ive done too > much in the gym no appetite but no nausea now so > drinking lots of green juices freshly squeezed > oranges and water > > Wed 18th tried to have a bath alone (my teenagers > had been caring for me) and fainted, no fever > annoying dry cough headache and exhausted > > Thurs 19th no fever dizzy spells dry cough aching > body headache is less no appetite > Fri 20th as above > Sat 21st as above > sun 22nd as above > > Monday 23rd no fever less coughing mild headache > less aches in body > Tues 24th as above > Wednesday 25th dizzy spells mild headache > Thursday 26th slight appetite dizzy and ache > allover > Friday 27th better appetite ache and exhausted > Saturday 28th appetite small but returning feel > drained > Today appetite better so so tired but no other > symptoms > > THIS IS NO JOKE - im a very healthy eater, i drink > a lot of water, non smoker, non drinker, gym 3 > times a week, i cycle, i swim , i jog BUT I STILL > GOT THIS AWFUL FLU > > PLEASE EVERYONE TAKE CARE AND REALLY STAY HOME IF > YOU CAN because i do feel that if hadnt started > out as healthy adult it would definitely would > have killed me > > Take care stay safe and drink lots of hot drinks > to keep your throat moist as apparently it may > prevent the virus travelling to the lungs, i dont > know if this true but anyway please STAY HOME > XXXX > > PS APOLOGIES FOR AWFUL TYPING So possible classic symptoms Day 1 - 11 recovering after that. The "go away" and "come back" thing seems to be reported a lot too Around Day 12 is when it can go to your lungs - so looks like if it was Covid19 you 'got away' with the first set of symptoms. I have heard of loss of all taste and smell is quite common. Fluids are good for us always and vitc - but unsure if they have a specific effect against this mind.

The depression from this is if we're already ill we have to hide, if we fall ill or have an accident - that things waiting for you too :( another reason not to go out or take risks in any way.

The mortality rate in places like London will depend how well the NHS copes and how flat the curve is - so mortality rate is not just dependent on the virus itself but how well we deal with it ?

Mrs D Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ..... and the sun has been out! I've got used to Venus looking in my window in the evening (I think it's Venus and not a satellite - very bright in the west)

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Eggs last at least three to five weeks in a fridge > and up to a year in the freezer dbboy. Once they get to two weeks odd I don't poach them though - spread out too much. It's omelette or scrambled.

Sky News are pushing the 20,000 deaths thing and had someone from Imperial (not the official Imperial COVID team) to back them up and make the influenza comparison but he seemed strange - as if he was holding something back. Then they started saying an economic dip causes deaths too - I do hope they are not heading towards pushing the Trump agenda of going back to work ASAP (i.e. before Easter). I notice the business secretary was doing todays government briefing.

Again Day 12 seems danger day (if you even are able to count). I'm seeing too many comments on social media along the lines of "people who die were going to die anyway"

cactus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I fear that young people are still not doing their > bit ... > Three young lads sat on the Rye yesterday sharing > a joint, six older looking teenagers hanging > around the basketball courts at the bottom of > Alleyn's playing fields today. Doubt they're all > from the same household. > I imagine parents telling them to stay home, and > they just sneak out anyway when backs are turned. this is just what the police are looking to move on (to home) I thought.

Chief Medical Officer is down now - along with Boris and Matt Hancock and Dom Cummings was seen running out of No10.

pk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > seenbeen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JohnL wrote "I think there's maybe a 30% chance > > millions of us have it (I wouldn't be > > surprised)." > > > > Yes you are probably right but the problem is > that > > if the 30% go around willy-nilly infecting > people > > then some vulnerable people will get very sick > > and end up in hospital on ventilators, key > > workers get sick and cannot do their jobs- the > > NHS collapses (after all covid sufferers are > not > > the ONLY sick people), law and order may > collapse, > > food and medicines cannot be supplied - hence > the > > need to social distance and prevent unnecessary > > travel and contact- travel passes need to be > > issued to essential workers > > > One of you is saying that there?s a 30% chance > ?millions have it? > > One of you seems to be saying probably 30% of > people have it > > But do either of you have any basis for saying > either of those things? No - just my gut feeling from all the info you get on TV.

Romnarz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The wild garlic is a bloody pest - keep trying to > eradicate it in my garden and the darn thing keeps > coming back.Yor are welcome to come around and dig > the whole lot up - will not charge you a bean DO you not like the smell (I think that is part of it)

I'm looking for eggs, ice, potatoes and coffee for my essentials I'm running low on next - any of these seen in Sainso's. Edit: and if any of the above aren't essentials shhh.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The death toll has jumped again- it's the builders > using public transport travelling in from poorer > areas- a lot of them are probably paid cash in > hand and will have nothing as they are not on any > system to receive aid....this is probably why they > have NOT been banned from work. What happened at > Canning Town during the Extinction Rebellion > protests is an indication of where and who they > are- we are heading for the worst case scenario I > fear I think there's maybe a 30% chance millions of us have it (I wouldn't be surprised). Still have no idea how long it lingers, if you gain immunity, if it can return, how long it takes to recover and what the symptoms of the dangerous part of the disease are and when they could come (I heard day 12 previously)

Boris and Matt Hancock self isolating Maybe the whole cabinet has it

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 12.15pm this afternoon, the queue was all around > the car park to well past the back wall, 25min > wait to get in, then was told at the door to > "hurry up" too go in!!!! > > Whilst in the store, a fight broke out between two > guys in the fruit and veg isle, staff not really > interceding but happy to run up and watch. The > emergency alarm was left to just screech away for > ages. Five police cars plus unmarked cars arrived > to sort out the altercation. > > Staff more interested in standing around in groups > and chatting, rather then really doing much work > and re-stocking the empty shelves. Suppose to intercede means getting within 2 meters. Not sure what the protocol is here - do you let two people fight on ? Popped very quickly into Tesco Rye Lane - 2 meter separated queue going in (some guy did try and edge up a bit), people careful not to get to close inside, temporary barrier so you can't get too close to the cashier (I think a better one will be on its way) and mostly stocked.

This was the statement https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/evening-standard-zone-2-3-home-delivery-coronavirus-a4394811.html Railway stations, major supermarkets and tube stations are the only public places mentioned

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The 2m thing is negated by the underground system. > I know that the builders working next to me come > in on public transport because they talk about it > loudly outside my bedroom window in the morning. > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8154805/F > ury-Sadiq-Khan-grows-workers-forced-packed-Tubes-3 > rd-day-coronavirus-lockdown.html > At least less people died than yesterday. Being said that there is a change in counting - but don't understand a word of this guy on newsnight. and this one says there is a cut off time change and he is the Whitehall Editor of The Times (whatever that is)

Not wearing your work ID in public should be a general security measure anyway I'd think - invites social engineering

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Charles and Camilla were now self-isolating at > Balmoral", must be tough Sky News have now used the term "Royal to Royal transmission"

I tweeted Camden Brewery to ask if they are still brewing and is they had further stock coming - they are :) They don't do toilet rolls.

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I feel that social media including community sites > such as this, and Whatsapp groups, make things > worse as they contribute to the mass hysteria. It > is right to discuss and reflect, but posting on > this site about panic buying doesn't help one bit. > Please rise above it. It isn't this site that gives me rising panic (nor twitter which just moans and moans and always has although it's worth it to see Edwina Curry reaction to Stone Cold Steve Austin) it's the supermarket sites that I'd hope would do better - something seems to be failing and it doesn't matter to me what is failing just that it's failed. I keep an eye on all of them and others and they can't cope - Morrison's has opened a new site with food boxes (below) using DFD as a delivery and that is snarled up immediately on being launched. https://www.morrisons.com/food-boxes/box/Meat-Food-Box The whatsapp groups are great but the three I follow seem a bit introspective (talking a lot about getting their message out - maybe the requests for help don't come from the groups so I'm seeing just a part of it). Can't criticise them though - they're a sign that some people still care :) A few people might even feel they should have stocked up more a few weeks back unfortunately - not all people keep food cupboards and freezers fully stocked (I do as my mother did and it became habit). if you live "week to week" with food I guess the panic would be justified in some ways.

Hurray (and I know some won't approve) but a few beers or a glass of wine just helps especially on a friday when you would have a drink with friends (lots still having a drink via skype/facetime) https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/25/off-licences-added-to-essential-businesses-list-by-uk-government-covid-19

Not sure we should be using the supermarkets distribution networks - the vulnerable should have a separate distribution network and it should have been planned for before the outbreak (easy to say I know). It seems they have failed a stress test in terms of online. Edit - Sky India Reporter "there was a bit of panic buying but now it's petered out"

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > kerry - too many to mention, 2/3 of what I've > managed to buy in the last week or so have had > this happen, it's pure profiteering from the > scumbags stripping the shelves. Could be all reductions have been removed rather than prices put up. Anyway seems they have started to bring the store under control and this thread is useful - may try a visit next week.

We need food to stay alive unfortunately.