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gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > but why are they now clearing out the fresh fruit > and vegetables isle? they already took the frozen > and tinned vegetables. > > that's why they took the toilet paper, they are > gonna spend all day eating. I heard they are going to stock with essentials only (meaning artisan bread replaced with basic bread, fancy stuff removed and basic stuff remains). it could work - we need bread, milk, some fruit, some meat, white potatoes etc. Vegan alternatives I guess will stay but no need for 20 types of potato.

Boris talking about an antibody test which we need and will help - but then talking about the economy and how those antibody positive could go back to work with a green light on their head - much too soon - we don't know enough yet.

Just got this email "Coronavirus (Covid-19): an update for residents These are unprecedented and concerning times for Southwark and the wider world, and I would like to reassure you that the council is working hard to protect residents, staff and services from the impact of Covid-19. I have agreed to stay in post as Leader of Southwark Council beyond my planned departure date of 25 March to offer stability and continuity, ensure our plans to respond to the crisis are robust and working, and that our communities are safe. We are taking every step to prepare for an increase in confirmed cases of the virus. At the moment most key council services are still running as normal. We have strong and tested plans in place to keep delivering services during this difficult period and we will ensure our most vulnerable residents keep getting the support they need. To support this we may stop doing some non-essential work to support frontline services and redeploy staff as necessary. We will continue to provide up-to-date information about our services and the support available through all our communications channels. Thank you for your ongoing support through this challenging time."

lindylou Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lynne, my point exactly. Close the car parks to > anyone but the disabled. Problem solved. No Horizon actually monitor the number plates of anybody parking in Sainsburys DKH (some of us have had tickets for staying over 2 hours) So they could limit the same vehicles (if they aren't exempt for various reasons) to once a month with a bit of system tweaking and maybe storage of numberplates or at least look for vehicles that turn up many times a week.

thinking this out - (1) you get a card that isn't a joker (pretty certain) (2) your partner has a chance of matching that card (unlikely) reset and repeat. (104/106 x 7/105 )3 Ooh but you might match on the jokers too :) so including jokers (104/106 x 7/105) + (2/106 x 1/105) all powered to 3 Bet I'm well wrong LOL

Rachel043 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes but for each selection, they drew at the same > time, more or less, so the second person couldn't > select the first person's tile. > > After that they were replaced. Yes so there's 8 5s in the pack, person A picks a 5 and now there's only 7 in the pack for Person B to match them.

paulu197 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a global issue and not a Sainsburys DKH > issue. We are not unique so deal with it. The same > way we have the sudden issue of Coronavirus > putting pressure on the health system is doing the > same. It's caused by irresponsible attitudes though and I suspect profiteers - not by the virus. 2/3rds of the public now support proper rationing to stop this by the few. https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/twothirds-of-voters-would-back-food-rationing-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-poll-finds

Schools in Wales are to shut - have they jumped the gun for the whole UK as the Welsh FM sits on COBRA I think ?

Night time deliveries are now unrestricted apparently. It's surprising the stores can't cope with this. Will we need ration books to stop the mass buyers (I suspect they may not all be hoarders - but profiteers)

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > (todate) Number of fatalities = 71 > (todate) Number of recorded cases = 1950 > > 71/1950*100 = 3.64% mortality rate it's correct figures but we decided to only test those who turn up in hospitals or were at risk - so mortality is 3.64% amongst those attending hospital or were at risk (not the entire population). 'chief medical officer for England Chris Witty said at a Number 10 press conference: ?We will pivot all of the testing capacity to identifying people in hospitals who have symptoms.?' Proper testing of the population will follow when we have the antibody test and can see who has been exposed (Boris mentioned it in PMQs).

It does depend who you are testing - we will know for sure once an antibody test comes out as it will show how many people recovered. If you test only in hospitals where only the most ill go - you will get a higher mortality. if you test in a club for U25s (say over a month) you'll probably get 0%

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They should allow you to take out jugs of beer :)) Yes I concur :)

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Phlegm means it's not Covid19 :) just > disgusting > > normal stuff > > > Actually that's not necessarily true. > > Yes, a dry cough is one of the main symptoms, but > as I understand it coughing up thick phlegm can > also be a synptom (though at that stage you'd > probably be quite ill). I didn't actually know that - (I would avoid people sounding that ill anyway although it sounds harsh). Just got an email from my old university (Kings) - they have advised all students to go home - so maybe students having a goodbye fling. Not seen as many in Rye Lane late at night recently. Reminder - it was St Patrick's day yesterday - biggest drinking day of the year normally but almost forgotten this year.

Glastonbury cancelled this morning :(. Expected but I can feel the devastation on Twitter. Maybe there will be some opportunities as businesses need to change how they operate - Pubs/Restaurants can now sell takeaway - but not sure how this will work.

yorksgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > fishbiscuits Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I think maybe there's an element of enjoying > the > > last days of normality for a long, long time. > > > > I did that over the weekend... out for beers > and > > curry both Fri and Sat night. Next weekend that > > probably won't even be possible. > > Especially if you're dead. Absolutely no beer or > curry. What if you've had it already - no-one is answering that. I know some say it can re-occur or hibernate in someone for a while.

se22cat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Teenagers & workmen hacking up phlegm & spitting > it everywhere, a disgusting bald white guy walking > down Frogley road with Marks bags yesterday openly > sneezing onto people without a care in his scumbag > mind, people from all backgrounds coughing into > their hands or just openly on the bus then using > the same hand to hold onto the rail & press the > button... > > Despite the supposedly major increase of ABC1's > into the area post-90s, the behaviour on show > daily makes it clear why the figures are high. Phlegm means it's not Covid19 :) just disgusting normal stuff

gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Apologies everyone, I've calmed down now, I know > it sounds silly to be upset over milk, but it was > a shocking sight to see. If you don't live in a flat where they can't get in you can use https://www.milkandmore.co.uk/

Pubs and restaurants legally allowed to move to a takeaway business plan https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-grant-permission-for-pubs-and-restaurants-to-operate-as-takeaways-as-part-of-coronavirus-response

Blackcurrant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Clusters form wherever it seeds, which involves a > large element of random chance. Hence Iran and > Italy exploding randomly after China. I don't > think you can read much into it. The pace of > increase is similar in most places once community > spread is established. If you're only testing where there's a link you'll find clusters. Doesn't mean there aren't other cases not being tested. We are not testing randomly from what I gathered - actually I thought we were only testing hospital admissions unless it changed. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/17/testing-for-coronavirus-what-being-done-in-uk "Testing now mostly takes place in hospital. People in intensive care units and those with respiratory illness, especially if it is pneumonia, will get tested for Covid-19. When there is a cluster of infections, such as an outbreak in a care home, those people will also be tested."

Amazon is taking on staff (those let go by restaurants and pubs) - I think the supermarkets need to also. Apparently pubs and restaurants can now legally act as takeaways.

Some countries have different problems :) "Authorities are also working to stem the sudden flow of thousands of people to Argentina?s Atlantic beach resorts. The announcement of paid work leave for persons over 60 and permission for others to work from home has apparently been taken by many as an extension of the southern hemisphere summer holidays."

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KidKruger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Very sweet how people still can believe this > Govt > > has the peoples' safety and interests at heart. > > Bless. > > Yep. Government priorities are first and foremost > economical. > > Maybe they're even hoping for a faster spread so > we're out on the other side quicker?!! Who knows. They need antibody testing - to know who has had this and who hasn't. I still suspect I (and quite a few others) may have had it weeks ago before it was even supposed to be in UK - but not gambling my health on that.

People are obviously going to buy fresh produce and bread/milk/coffee/wine from local stores and if you are self isolating someone else will for you (a friend or a mutual help group). It's a small risk. Not sure whether we should wear gloves (or just wash your hands as soon as you return).

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ianr Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > > Despite being over 70, the idea of getting > > infected early and over with, and becoming a > free > > and potentially useful agent again, is a > tempting > > one. > > > The trouble is ianr, you could be infected early, > then over and out rather than over with and carry > on. > > And in any case, "they" don't have enough info at > the moment to know whether you would be > permanently immune once you have been infected, or > whether the immunity might wear off. > > Plus the present form of the virus might mutate. > And probably will at some point. > > Don't know whether to laugh or cry really :) we don't even know if there is sometimes a delay between the initial and severe phases. Reports in China of patients recovering then falling ill again with worse symptoms. https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3065091/coronavirus-recovered-patient-dies-china-reports-139-new-cases

Amazon is taking on staff - bet they have a business pan for stay at home. https://www.standard.co.uk/business/amazon-hiring-coronavirus-employee-drive-a4389111.html "The company added that it would be looking to hire individuals currently out of work due to cutbacks over the coronavirus outbreak in the restaurant, travel and entertainment industries, among others." "We want those people to know we welcome them on our teams until things return to normal and their past employer is able to bring them back,"