Louisa

I watched last weeks one and it's a really insightful look into the workings of Iceland. I recommend a look if you're bored. I know how much our store polarises local opinion. Louisa.

Please make this thread stop oh higher power! I feel as though I'm trapped in a never ending 7 year night terror. Louisa.

Brockley is a great place to shop, a lot more chilled out than around here. Less pretentious. However, I think it's a little unfair to reach conclusions about the area based on one days shopping experience. Come back another time and see how you feel then. Louisa.

Maybe the co-op will hand over to fortnum & mason local if this new refit doesn't work out. Louisa.

I agree it's better to be safe than sorry. But post 87 we seem to have taken precaution to an elevated extreme. We live with the effects of the jet stream on a daily basis, our climate is dictated by its force. October is usually one of the most potent months for its full force with system after system attacking us from the west. I understand why infrastructure needs to be cautious, but does it really mean we need to come to a standstill? We can't use the argument, as we do with the snow, that our country isn't prepared for it, because we are an Atlantic facing country which has always dealt with storms of this and a similar nature. Louisa.

God this just keeps getting worse, I'm starting to worry about my gate staying on its hinges. Louisa.

So a bit of wind and rain the odd tree comes down etc etc... I do often have to bite my tongue when it comes to British weather stories. We even have a local councillor offering live updates on the situation. I guess it's good preparation for the half inch of snow we may see in January. Louisa.

The Sunday Times how very middle class. Louisa.

Blimey they're ladybirds, my mother always told me they were on a par with butterflies and bumblebees as the loveliest insects of all. You can't harm them! Woolies even named their clothing brand after them, come on!? Louisa.

I remember being woken at 3 in the morning by one of the windows in my bedroom literally coming out of it's wooden frame and crashing to the floor. Pretty shaken as the base of my bed was less than a foot from the impact zone of the glass. Louisa.

HelBel65 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Allow me... > > Iceland is rubbish > > ;-) Stop s@?& stirring. :) Louisa.

Tried and trusted formula MM. Bejams/Iceland have been on LL for nearly 30 years, and I've always loved them. They serve a large proportion of the local population and if we all supported them it would guarantee we don't end up with an empty retail spot on the high street, something none of us want. The M&S/Waitrose thing has gone on too long, let's just forget about them. Louisa.

Brilliant documentary about Iceland on BBC2 last night. Despite a lot of the snobbery aimed at them, they are very strict on where their food is sourced from and what goes into each product, as well as being good value for money. They also do quite a lot of positive things for their staff as anyone who watched last nights documentary will have noticed. I'm now thinking maybe we should do more to support them staying on LL by shopping there more regularly, rather than opting for the unknown. Louisa.

*Bob* the builder I think you have further insight into this one - are you doing the work? On the subject of Lordship Lane's demise 'can you fix it?'. You make me wet myself sometimes :) Louisa.

Space NK - trust me on this one Louisa.

I cannot understand how people can abuse a shared space. A public park is such a precious place in our inner city environment and for ignorant people to dump rubbish and abuse that is just not fair. I think community wardens should patrol the park and fine people on the spot for offensive behaviour whether that is littering, urinating or spitting dog poo etc. they should also have the authority to force people to pick up the rubbish they leave behind too. It's disgusting this should have to be done, whenever I am abroad I always note how clean other cities are compared to London. Louisa.

I've always thought of the Bejams/Iceland building as a classic candidate for a travelodge. Louisa.

OK Waitrose for the Iceland store, and M&S will wait for the police station. Sorted. Can we close this thread now please? Louisa.

My conclusion - High streets failing up and down the country, an opportunity for a major retailer to move onto ours and its rejected. If I were Waitrose I'd not even bother. Once Iceland go shall we just have an empty shop? Maybe another estate agent or charity shop? Can't wait. :) Louisa.

Another ignorant and misinformed attack on Bromley. Making wild conclusions about a whole borough of people based on one alleged incident. And people call me ignorant? I'm guessing by that argument their are no racist attitudes in inner London because it is so educated and well informed? Baseless argument with a stereotypical example to make a point about a whole borough full of people. Who's really the ignorant one? Louisa.

I'm guessing Waitrose will take this site on now then James? Louisa.

All of the anti-Bromley stuff is inverse snobbery. Lots of old school south Londoners moved out east to Bromley and Dartford just as the cockneys moved out of the east end into Dagenham and Romford. It was a natural progression as well as rehousing post war slum clearance. To describe these people as 'mildly racist' or 'hating everything about London that I love' is an ignorant and misunderstood evaluation as to why these people are now residing in these areas. Few in Bromley would describe their shopping centre as better than the bigger shopping areas further into town- so why people are suggesting that is ludicrous. Bromley council runs one of the largest and most populous councils in greater London so any arguments they had about funding in the 70s and 80s were routed in that, nothing at all to do with a mirroring of thatchers anti-European stance. What a ridiculous and odd bunch of comments from people who like to see themselves above those of others purely because they live closer to the centre of town. No wonder ED has lost it's mojo in the last few years and so many neighbouring areas find us pompous and arrogant. Louisa.

Maybe Harvey Nicks are planning on a metro sized store? Let's face it, this place is so amazing how could they possibly resist? :) Louisa.

LondonMix - better rail connections than ED, you can get into Central London on a fast train without changing. A much better bus service into London and also out to rural Kent/Surrey. It has a large Waitrose and M&S alongside a big indoor shopping centre. The streets are much cleaner, less litter... Do I need to go on? All the Bromley haters are jealous of the fact they are zone 2 folk who are paying more for their homes in a less well connected area with fewer amenities. Louisa.

James Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bizarrely I totally agree with you Louisa. Let > Bromley stay isolated and tubeless. This is a good > idea, chiefly for two reasons: > > 1) Mind-numbingly dull and parochial suburbs like > Bromley are important breeding grounds for > creative people who, driven mad by their > stultifying curtain-twitching mediocrity, escape > and create wonderful things. As in David Bowie > (ex-Bromley), Mick Jagger (ex-Dartford) > > 2) The sort of people who live in Bromley are > unpleasant, rightwing, Daily Mail-worshipping > types - mildly homophobic, racist and bigoted. I > should know as I grew up there. So I would prefer > they kept themselves to themselves, thanks very > much. No need to rub it in the rest of our faces. The sort of people who live in Bromley are actually the sort of true Londoners who moved out there to escape the overpriced, grotty, crime ridden inner London areas they were born in- and create an oasis on the edge of a scabby city which retains rural charm and has all the amenities a so called 'gentrified' wannabe place like ED can only dream of having. It's a win-win for those people! Oh and the house prices aren't as overinflated as they are here and the people actually engage in conversation and smile occasionally, unlike the dull Home Counties drabs who walk around with their phone plugged into their ear hole looking down at the ground because they have the personality of a brick wall. No, I agree James, let the tube move into the scabby inner suburbs of South London, and good old Bromley can keep its fast service into London Victoria, which incidentally is still better connected than around here. :) Louisa.