
DuncanW
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Was it not for the multiple in line responses?
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Rocket, is that comment definitely for me? I don?t recognise what it?s in response to?
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I'm not giving you information about where I live. I think I made that clear earlier. You're obviously not going to engage on the matters of substance I asked you about. That's fine, it's up to you. I genuinely hope everything works out for you. I would not like to be in the situation where I felt my road was becoming more congested and polluted.
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heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Everything Duncan..everything. So you live in an > LTN, probably in a house with a garden and own at > least one car I guess. Good on yer lad, it?s that > way of thinking that has made Engerland the > marvellous country it is today. > > If you are wealthy you can move into an LTN, if > you are poor ... you have no choice but to stay > living on your polluted ?main? road. Heartblock - the fact you're missing is that I haven't once voiced anything to suggest that I am pro LTN. Like most people on this thread, I am certainly in favour of reducing congestion and pollution and I'm open-minded about how we achieve that. I think that reducing private car journeys needs to be part of that, but understand there are different views on how effective LTNs are, and how significant the externalities are. The points I'd questioned you on though were your claims that the people living in EDG, LL and Croxted are the poorest in Southwark, and that the council is a dictatorship. I tried to say it softly but the reality is both of those claims are objectively false - and the size or location of my home, doesn't change that. The elected council, what you would no doubt call the MSM and assorted scientists seem to think LTNS do work, but as I have said before, residents of the affected roads deserve to have their voices heard. I just wish you could focus on constructing a more cogent and compelling case for removal of the LTNs, rather than these flights of fancy that seem to preoccupy you, and personal attacks based on your assumptions about other people's personal circumstances. And by the way, living in a house with a garden isn't a way of thinking, is it? Or can you explain that to me?
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Sorry Heartblock, my mum told me not to give my details out to strangers on the Internet. Not really sure what that?s got to do with the discussion points in hand either if I?m honest.
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I?m not conflating anything. I?m arguing that your claim the communities living in Croxted, EDG and LL are the poorest in the borough, is false. And the same about LB Southwark being a dictatorship. Of course there is a leadership group that steers the council. That doesn?t equate to dictatorship. And the party may well lose seats, they haven?t always controlled this borough, even in recent times. That is how democracy works. You can?t have it both ways?
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Fair point. Though I think it?s true to say congestion at that junction predates the recently introduced LTNs.
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Heartblock, I don't think the residents of Croxted, EDG and LL represent the 'poorest in the borough' - I'm sure there's a mix of demographics on all those roads but that seems pretty wide of the mark. It's also worth noting that most of the high density social housing in Southwark, where there would be lower levels of affluence are already in LTNs. Keeping it local, the Lordship Lane, Dog Kennel Hill and Dawsons Heights estates are all closed off to through traffic - and this is also generally true of the larger estates in the north of the borough. And in what way is LB Southwark a dictatorship? Labour hold over three quarters of the seats in Southwark because people vote for them. There are elections next year - if they are unpopular, they will get voted out.
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Then they built a whopping, great big, new school on East Dulwich Grove!! And reopened two old ones either side of Peckham Rye!! That's a fair amount of increased capacity, no? The area where it's toughest to get a Dulwich school from (in ED) is round Friern Road/Underhill Road ends - from there, you are likely to get FHB or Sydenham. Those schools are quite easy to get to from that part of East Dulwich so no real need to drive, and if those families were to drive, they wouldn't be going passed there new LTN areas. Regardless of all that - school catchment areas don't expand when demand is high, they contract. It's really simple stuff!!
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Demand for school places reduces catchment area size normally - not the other way round Some older children may travel further for schools - but how many 13-15 yr old kids are being dropped off by mummy in the mornings?? Most would rather crawl over nails to get there, surely?? Schools alongside councils have done a lot to try to counter traffic issues - most visibly, the school street closures that many primary schools now have, but also via education and persuasion, walking buses, active school travel days, bikeability courses, improvements to cycle infrastructure, greater enforcement of infractions - sure they could do more still, but are you seriously saying you're not aware of any of this stuff
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A few drunk loutish England fans let the side down on Lordship Lane
DuncanW replied to IlonaM's topic in The Lounge
JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wind Street is always edgy LOL True story - but this was std Wind St edgy cranked up a good couple of notches :) -
A few drunk loutish England fans let the side down on Lordship Lane
DuncanW replied to IlonaM's topic in The Lounge
Cardiff City have a notorious football firm (hooligan element) - they have intense and violent rivalries with Swansea and others. None of these would come out to welcome fans if England played in Cardiff?? I've been away to Swansea and the fans (we met) couldn't have been nicer. I've also been out in Wine St, Swansea on a Saturday night when Swansea City had been promoted the same day. I was with family (no kids) and some friends from overseas. The atmosphere went from boisterous to edgy, quite quickly. I made the call that we shouldn't be there and we left promptly in a taxi. Most likely nothing would have happened... -
A few drunk loutish England fans let the side down on Lordship Lane
DuncanW replied to IlonaM's topic in The Lounge
NotImpressed is an inveterate Troll - that's for sure. It's a shame he or she doesn't seem to feel any sympathy for this family who clearly had an upsetting experience. There is nothing factually inaccurate in the post above though. There is often trouble at England matches, in and around the stadium and en route to and from. This trouble is by no means limited to England fans, but followers of our national team do seem to be amongst the more regular offenders. Add to the mix, the biggest fixture in recent times played at night, and the drinking that comes with that. When the Danish FA sought out ex-pats and their families to replace the normal Danish football fans who couldn't travel, perhaps they should have provided better advice. It's certainly freely available elsewhere: "You should avoid wearing football shirts or showing any kind of support for any football team because such shows of support might end violently since some rivalries are taken very seriously in the UK." from https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-kingdom/ The incident was a minor one. If the man felt he was assaulted,then that's a matter for the police (and there would be CCTV as it was on a bus) not really for a matter the national media. It seems the man himself and his boy recognise that saying "it was more annoying drunk fans than terror" -
Cat - I don't think you're a racist or a troll. It seems like you have put quite a lot of thought into this, but now seem to be contorting to defend an entrenched position you don't really believe in yourself. I get thet you don't like the taking of the knee and don't think it's the best way to protest against racism. I think that's fair enough - you're entitled to that view. I also have reservations about it as the best form of protest, but for different reasons, and perhaps not so deeply held as you. For me, it started as a protest by sports people in the US who were refusing to stand for their national anthem before fixtures. As I understand it, players (initially Kaepernick) felt they couldn't stand for the anthem of a state that was systemically brutalising and killing black people. He had initially remained seated, but an ex marine suggested to him that just looked lazy/disengaged and suggested kneeling. Thankfully we don't have police regularly killing black citizens here. We also don't play a national anthem before matches, so to me it feels a bit misplaced in some ways. Some black players don't like it also - Wilf Zaha has declined to do it and says that he shouldn't have to kneel in order not to be racially abused. These are all viewpoints of people who are against racism. They're all valid I guess. But for me, as long as the players themselves feel this is the way they wish to further their cause against this vile abuse they are subjected to, as well as the wider racism in society, they have my full support. It doesn't matter if I think it's the best way or not - I don't have agency in the matter and I don't have skin in the game. I simply have the binary choice to show support or not. Why would you not take the same psoition?
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He won't though
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A few drunk loutish England fans let the side down on Lordship Lane
DuncanW replied to IlonaM's topic in The Lounge
It sounds like this family had an unpleasant experience, and I have every symptahy for them on that score. I wonder though how many of the people who seem so outraged over this actually rather petty incident have ever been to a football match as a travelling away fan. I suspect not many, and it's fairly clear that the family in question only got tickets as football fans based in Denmark couldn't travel. Intimidation and violence at an around football matches is horrible, but it's nothing new and thankfully it's far less common nowadays than it used to be. This Euros is notable not for the small number of unwelcome minor incidents, but for their sparsity and for the lack of any major trouble. I get that is partly due to restrictions in place due to Covid but I would much rather the general high standards of behaviour should be celebrated, rather than dwelling on a small number of minor incidents. The last Euros was held in France and was mired with horrific violence across the country. Two England fans were left in a coma after masked Russia fans charged England supporters armed with iron bars. Some England fans had clashed with French police the night before after causing trouble in the town centre, but the fans who were attacked the next day hadn't been causing trouble. There were other serious outbreaks of violence across the country involving supporters of several different teams, including French fans ambushing Turkish fans in Paris. Turkey weren't even playing France. There's often a fine line between victim-blaming and good advice when it comes to personal safety. I think the difference is that good advice is given before the event. So for anyone who might be in Germany for Euro 2024 I would share the advice that I always follow when I have travelled to away games over the years, and in recent years with my own young children: Don't wear colours, or if you do, it's best to have a zip-up top that can cover it up when needed; definitely don't travel on the local public transport system with England face-paint all over your face. If you find yourself in a potentially hostile situation, keep your head down, remain non-expresive - smiling doesn't always come across how you think it might - and don't remonstrate with drunken yobs just because you think you are in the right, it's more likely to exacerbate than to calm things down. And if you are getting some verbal abuse, just keep your head down and suck it up, however much you don't want to. I've been in a few of these situations over the years, with and without my children - and this approach has kept me out of trouble when the potential for it has been clear. I hope that all football fans enjoy tonight's game and stay safe. -
To the point that some may feel too frightened to participate in the survey, Siduhe posted on the now locked thread that responses were gathered either on the doorstep, by email, online questionnaire or by returning on a postcard. I struggle to believe that 111 households were too frightened to fill out an online questionnaire - that would seem unlikely, no?
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Is there also the risk that it's a self-selecting cohort so not representative of the wider community? Residents of EDG undoubtedly deserve to have their voices heard, but I note that over half are either in favour or indifferent to the closures, or didn't feel strongly enough to participate in the survey (=indifferent?) It's not compelling stuff!
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LTNs - EDG residents overwhelmingly against road closures
DuncanW replied to edg2016's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Metallic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is their problem, they don't want their > voices lost in people speaking on the main site. > I don't blame them at all. And if you lived on > EDG you would probably want to be seen as a huge > victim. Sure, I get that people are against the closures, and want their voices heard. I don't think it furthers the anti-LTN cause though to keep on opening new threads on the subject. -
LTNs - EDG residents overwhelmingly against road closures
DuncanW replied to edg2016's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
We really don't need yet another thread on this subject. -
"Probably" and "may well be" aren't gonna save the day here - hate to break that to you :)
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London e-scooter trial: Southwark participation
DuncanW replied to legalalien's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Seems good to me - looks like they're here to stay so better to regulated. 12kpmh is a fairly brisk jog I would say, eg running 10km in 50 minutes - I'd be pleased with that.... :) -
What is wrong with aspiring to the same levels of cycle-use as Amsterdam? What are the big differences? I know we have some hills, but bikes can go up hills. It's also pancake flat between East Dulwich and central London (if you go via Peckham) - The route of the 37 bus from Nunhead to Clapham and beyond is also flat. Also - neither London or Amsterdam are megacities, by the definition of 10M+ people. Amsterdam is part of the Randstad conurbation which has a very similar population size to London. This is not an argument in favour of the current LTNs but why would we not aim high on encouraging and facilitating active travel. I share your view that walking is just as important. The difference, in my view, is that there are few, if any encumbrances on walking in this area - not that I am aware of anyway. Compare that to cycling and it's more obvious, to me anyway, where you can spend money to effect change.
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Two World Wars and one world cup - English superiority complex?
DuncanW replied to malumbu's topic in The Lounge
Malumbu, you might be over-thinking this a bit. I've heard that song (and other worse ones) in the past, but haven't heard it recently. And that particular one isn't the end of the world in my opinion, anyway. There's far too much focus on the pockets of idiots who follow our national team, and who are at odds with the vast majority of football fans in England. I for one am proud to be English and will be cheering on loudly from the comfort of my own home this evening, and not being overly concerned if Barry from Market Harborough doesn't approve of our players taking the knee or whatever. They will do it anyway, and most England fans will support them in that action. -
Genuine question for people who refuse to wear masks.
DuncanW replied to Ronnijade's topic in The Lounge
Yes, it's disgusting. There was talk on the news this morning of introducing a new law around harassment of public officials, but surely we already have sufficient laws to act on this type of behaviour. Somene was arrested and charged for the harassment of that Newsnight journalist/editor the other day. https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2021/06/29/man-denies-public-order-offence-over-bbc-newsnight-editor-incident/
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