RosieH

Annette Curtain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I want to kick these :)) :) But Annette, that would be active-aggressive...

Why? Children are more likely to be murdered by their parents than by a stranger. This whole thing is, as *Bob* says, ghoulish and icky. Why the obsession with this one child but none of the many, many others?

It's fashionable.

Phil Daniels singing Five Years in This House at the National. A sublime moment.

Hi penelope. Hi (hi, hi, hi!)

Wigan got skills. S'all I'm saying.

I'm not meaning to take the piss - I've no doubt whatsoever that it works for weight loss - it's just the miracle other health benefits that are claimed for it that I find less credible. If there's no clinical evidence that it works, why would I believe hearsay over the word of the NHS or qualified dieticians?

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well the NHS are (quite rightly) unlikely to do > anything other than play safe. And a "health > magazine"? Neither of these amount to "science", > soz. So where's YOUR science? When I referred you to the NHS, the article states that there is no peer reviewed research that demonstrates any of the benefits claimed for the fast diet. An absence of a peer-reviewed paper showing that something DOESN'T work doesn't mean that it does... Sounds like homeopathy to me.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RosieH Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > edcam Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Yes, people forget that weight loss isn't the > > main > > > aim of the fasting diet. It's the all round > > health > > > benefits that are the point. > > > > > > Yes - science suggest that the health benefits > of > > the 5:2 fasting diet are the same as a regular, > > run-of-the-mill healthy eating regime. > > > > Who'd a thunk it? > > > That's not true actually - where did you read this > research? In a health magazine. Why, where did you read yours? I'd also refer you to the NHS: http://www.nhs.uk/news/2013/01January/Pages/Does-the-5-2-intermittent-fasting-diet-work.aspx

What do you feel is missing?

Is there an incentive?

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, people forget that weight loss isn't the main > aim of the fasting diet. It's the all round health > benefits that are the point. Yes - science suggest that the health benefits of the 5:2 fasting diet are the same as a regular, run-of-the-mill healthy eating regime. Who'd a thunk it?

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Pret is an amazing example of fast food which is > healthy and value for money. What the actual fuck? A bona fide McDonalds is usually healthier in terms of fat, salt and calories than a Pret sandwich. As for value for money, I bought a salad from there last week for ?4.50. It had two strips of beef in it, the type of cooked meat you'd get out of a packet, the width of each was less than an inch, the length about 3 inches, so approximately half a slice of cooked meat. The rest was lettuce and a forkful of cold noodles (aka "toast"). Even if I'd gone pretentious and bought Aberdeen Angus rather than Iceland's own, I could have put the whole thing together for about ?1. Pret's a fricking rip off and not remotely healthy. It is, though, fresh. I could have got a delicious, pretentious hog roast for 50p less. I've been robbed. By the by, my dad's about as working class as they come, AND he's from Wigan. He knows a hawk from a handsaw, and can make a mean frittata. He also understands the value of good food, and has always been more than happy to pay a decent amount of money for decent quality food.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Who goes home from work and says "ooh lets knock > up a frittata for tea" - no one that's who! > Louisa. Er, actually, me. Although I usually do it for lunch. You don't put chunks in an omelette. They're different recipes. Scrambled eggs and an omelette would be closer bedfellows, but I don't see you getting upset about that. A pizza isn't the same as cheese on toast, in the same way that lasagne and moussaka aren't just pretentious cottage / shepherd's pies. They're similar, but markedly different. If you'd prefer though, we can just refer to things in the generic: meat, eggs, vegetable matter... I like meat things.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have we had Guardian readers yet? QUIDS

How is frittata (Italian word) any more pretentious than omelette (french word)? They're made completely differently - it's like calling a paella a pretentious risotto. Facile.

Louisa Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RosieH Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > ?4 for a hog roast, that fairly makes my day - > > cheaper than a MaccerD's > > > I bet you dot get fries and a drink with it , > which for 4 quid will get you a meal deal in > McD's. > > Louisa. ?4.50 with a can of pop then. The sandwich is as big as a quarter pounder and chips, so the no chips argument is void.

Fast diet gives you cancer.

you lot

?4 for a hog roast, that fairly makes my day - cheaper than a MaccerD's

who thinks that?

You want to go to Wigan for a decent pie, whatever Louisa says. And if you want street food like a Wiganer, you want a pie barm. Always meat and potato (or potato and meat as the EU NAZIS would have it). Three carbs in one massive bun of happiness. Unbeatable.

El Pibe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KIDS IN PUBS!!!!!!! KIDS!!!!! fucking vermin

DulwichVillageLady Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello, > > I found the login process very frustrating. After > signing upto the site the activation E-Mail was > placed in my junk E-Mail box. It took me several > minutes to find this. I am now signed up and look > forward to discussing Dulwich Village. Dulwich Village? That's not East Dulwich - get out!

GO AND SEE CYANIDE PILLS (although it might have to be in Derby) Saw them last night and they were freaking amazing - if you like your punk a little new wave, they're just about perfect. And immense. Immensely perfect. Perfectly immense. Do it.