Sephiroth

"So are you all gung ho and pro war? Where is your evidence that Stop the War movement is pro Russia? It simply against war, has been since 2003. " I'm neither gung ho or "pro" war - but when a Russian dictator sends tanks in to a neighbouring country and blows innocent people to smithereens, you have to either decide you are against him or with him. Saying "stop the war" isn't going to save anyone's life. Putin is not going to listen to you - he is going to carry on until he is stopped. So when I see a stop the war movement on streets of London, waving their Russian flags and blaming the west, or NATO for what is happening (the same words as Putin) then yes, I am going to conclude they have taken Putin's side

I see the stop the war clowns are protesting in London today. With their hammer and sickle flags. Ffs

Of course there are reasons to swerve Ukraine/Georgia et al actually joining But the fact is they view the EU as a good thing. They aren?t calling to team up with U.K. and whatever fantasy worldview it has We can argue all day long about how much Russia/putin were actively involved in Brexit - but there is zero doubt that Brexit happening was viewed as a good thing by Putin, as it illustrates discord amongst his neighbours. But boy does uk look sillier by the day

"We've done well without gas for tens of thousands of years." That's an argument that doesn't work at all surely? a) we didn't do well b) we didn't have electronic equipment for even longer but here you are c) if you do travel to Ukraine, you walking or horseback riding?

I do wonder if Germany displayed even the slightest sign of beefing up their military might at any point in the last few decades, just how the UK, let by it's press, would have reacted Would the reaction have been - "fair play - about time" or would it have been "Krauts creating EU army - remember 1945!"

is this meant to be a coherent question? What does it have to do with anything I've said? Are you suggesting somehow that, what, I'm pro-Putin invading Ukraine? Or are you saying that what Putin is doing is somehow justifiable? And if your question is somehow potentially interpretable as either/both maybe clarify a little?

Days of condemnation from the world and this is the best Johnson comes up with tonight ?Come. Well. If you have a close family member. Otherwise, bag out of luck I guess??? https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/27/uk-expected-ease-visa-restrictions-ukrainians-fleeing-war?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Spidey senses agogo

You are the one with the big claims. How about you back them up? As a starter. With countries all around Europe, including Ireland, saying ?feck visas. Just come here. We will look after you? how is the U.K. response of ?apply for seasonal farm work? in any way world-leading?

That is some weird yet cliched takes.

Ukrainian calls to join the EU Hopefully EU respond in kind Where does that leave the ?I support Ukrainian but don?t like EU and think the invasions is because of NATO expansion ? crowd?

Ukrainian calls to join the EU Hopefully EU respond in kind Where does that leave the ?I support Ukrainian but don?t like EU and think the invasions is because of NATO expansion ? crowd?

problem Labour have on that score is that Kinnock posted a video which boiled down to not much more than the govt - are Labour simply scared of the "legitimately concerned voter" or do they share the govt view

Not worrying in any way I?m sure https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/feb/27/uk-scientists-fear-brain-drain-as-brexit-rows-put-research-at-risk?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

As someone who has been so, erm, engaged with 4Cat in recent years I think it?s now obvious what he is. If I engage with 4Cat again, someone slap me

I mean leaving personalities aside. What?s the smart, objective, neutral take when a thug like Putin invades another European country So many far left and far right commentators saying it?s the wests fault, natos fault etc etc. are just apologists for war crimes. And no amount of indignation can hide that And to have trump saying putin is smart and approving him. And to not take the opportunity to condemn that? Because? why wouldn?t you?

There are also a lot of reports claiming that the Ukrainian govt are nazis and killing innocent people - that doesn't make them true Your post is implicitly supporting that view (about if Trump was president there would be no war) - and you certainly aren't saying you disagree with it. So give over with the "hey I'm just a neutral messenger" days after Trump spoke of admiring and supporting Putin - why would anyone do that?

"There's quite a lot of analysis and commentary around suggesting the whole thing was very unlikely to have taken place had Trump still been in power. " not from anyone credible - unless you care to illustrate otherwise? It's basically a pro-Putin line despite any protestations to contrary Frankly you should be ashamed to even type something like that

? I have more conviction and independent though that most? I will be in an old folks home. Lying in my own piss. Miserable. Insufficient staff to help me (because, yknow. Brexit) And then I will remember this line. And I will smile and be happy It?s not the first self-aggrandising Cat line But it might be the finest. Bravo sir. Bravo

No one is with you cat. No one

Global Britain, enfeebled by Brexit and Russian money, looking very lame today Just weeks ago it was all ?Germany is so laaaaame? Yet here we are with Germany cutting gas ties and Johnson lying/pretending that people like abramovich have already been sanction. Absolutely pathetic.

Looks like it won?t even be a Brexit benefit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60439796

also not sure how TfL financial woes in 2022 are all that different to UK PLC or indeed most other countries - TfL will have lost FORTUNE over lockdown and not sure that's on Khan (or whoever would be mayor at this time)

I see the MP for Dover and Deal (someone you would expect to be on top of this) was blaming traffic jams around the ports on EU bureaucracy and explicitly not Brexit talk about not knowing what you voted for

Categorically yes As has been pointed out, there is no record of Starmer being harrassed and called paedo prior to Johnson's comments And again, acceptance that what he said was wrong is across the political spectrum, and not confined to this forum And the reason people think it was wrong for him to say is because of the risks involved of something like the other night happening. Or worse And for you - or anyone - to try and deny any link at all - is just grim There are still people (no surprise if you are one of them) who think the events at the White House was nothing to do with Trump - but people in these elevated positions know how dog whistles work