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Teddyboy You aren?t making any sense The only reason this is happening is because article 50 was triggered and the clock was ticking If it was a narrow remain win there would be no ticking clock and no external pressures and no need to spend billions palming for leaving our biggest trading partner. There would be no equivalent action

?By the way. I'm not a prat? If it needs saying out loud...

I?m saying most racists voted to leave, yes. That is quite different to saying everyone who voted leave is racist. But it does underline why brexit is causing so much trouble - no one can agree on what it means. People who voted to leave but wanted single market access have been discarded Your football analogous doesnt work because - and this is the bit you fail to grasp - going to a football match or not going affects nobody else. Leaving the eu is going to leave us all worse off But there is zero point arguing with you

How does this ?game of double-bluff? work then dbboy?

Always honest Lou Usually wrong Why would these protests drive you away? An unelected prime minister is taking us towards a no deal Brexit which is the opposite of that which was promised - it?s entirely appropriate to talk about democracy, the abuse of etc

?My reason for leaving the E.U. has Nothing to do with Immigration or Xenophobia.? Accepting this at face value - you do accept that racists and xenophobes are all on board with leaving the eu tho right? You have accepted their help for your own ends. And your ends are spurious. You think you are under the yoke of ?Brussels?

Im in Ireland today Buses in driving past with ?get prepared for Brexit ? adverts plastered on the side. Long list of things to check and be ready for You don?t see that in England do you?

Ah but not eu immigrants! patel?s promise to make life easier for Bangladeshis around the time of the referendum - that worked out well

Foxy combining arrogance and ignorance ? Switzerland is a small but wealthy country, which is surprisingly not a member of the EU. Not a lot of people realise that? A lot of people do realise that. It also is a member of schengen and has physical infrastructure at its borders with the eu. So how do you square those issues with ?your? Brexit? Do you want free movement of people? And do you want physical infrastructure in Ireland?

Picked a bad day to change my holiday money

Leavers man No one is complaining about chlorinated chicken because it will mutate us It?s because the chlorine is required in USA because welfare standards for animals and workers are so bad. What you are saying is you don?t give a shit about either Although food poisoning rates are much higher over there too

Country were told they could have a great, easy deal I?m willing to believe you couldn?t give a shit and just want no deal uncleglen. But don?t you dare suggest it?s what most of the country voted for because that is straight up bullshit and even you know that

?WTF are you doing posting on here? ? You can take the man out of east dulwich etc. Yours StraferJack/SeanMacGabhann Plus brother still lives in se22 so I?m up and about to keep an eye on ?things?

Sure Lou Several posters say they have curry sauce in various northern towns, some talk about where to to get it dulwich but you just ignore them to focus on me Your yougov poll also lists some respectable numbers for curry sauce up north. But whatevs eh?? People migrate. People change I have no problem believing curry sauce is most popular in wales. None But waving that fact around to dismiss people who might want curry sauce in London is... well I don?t know what it is If people want something let them have it eh?

?Curry sauce is a welsh thing with chips, not northern, that?s gravy. Louisa.? Classic Louisa nonsense. Thrown out with customary over-confidence. Rebutted And ignored Why do you do it Lou?

That?s not his real twitter account tho is it?

What I would say is - Bills tend to be pretty busy places. They know how to get people through the door. And that space seems very Bills-like so it wouldn't surprise me (although it isn't as high-street adjacent as they tend to go for)

Yeah they did used to be nice enough when they were small in number. But as ever once the VCs come in with cheque books, bottom line is king. You can't roll out multiple dozens of a small idea and not lose something

Bill's food is overpriced frozen rubbish anyway - it's a looong way from what the original in Lewes used to be like I live in Lewes and never go near the place

Irish peeps in the UK- you might want to have an oul read of this delightful bit of info about your possible future. The UK Government is creating a tiered system for Irish citizens - here?s how by Emma DeSouza https://link.medium.com/KNtRnFAp9Y

Because ?Brexit? is a mirage You can point to a narrow referendum victory from 3 and a half years ago but you can?t define what leaving means AND still command a majority for that definition. That?s why we haven?t left after all this time. It?s costly, leaves us with less power, open to bigger nations taking advantage, and could end the United Kingdom and return violence to NI Latest survation shows the changing picture - good thread here Keybtakeaway ? Key takeaways: 1️⃣ Remain would probably win in a 2nd ref 2️⃣ This is what public opinion looks like *without* any clear cues on this issue from the main opposition party! If Lab campaigns for Remain in a 2nd ref, public opinion should shift even further.?

Agreed with that But perhaps if politicians, papers and sections of the public weren?t screaming to leave the eu at any cost it would leave room for politicians to manoeuvre After more than 3 years it?s clear leaving can?t be done to the country?s satisfaction. obsessing over leaving in some shape or form is a weird pursuit at this point. Many leave voters wanted membership of single market for example. Mays deal wouldn?t give them that It?s really better for everyone if everyone just moves the conversation how to not leave

"nd saying it's Remain MPs fault " indeed - but equally many prominent leavers voted the WA down as well. It's because Brexit isn't real Not as it exists in leaver's heads anyway - leaving the EU is possible but any single version can't command a majority. Only the hand-wavy, drunk on it's own promises unicorn version can command a majority

"Map me out how we get back in without now exiting (an outcome that you and I both agree is by far the best), I just can't see it politically." It not being politically possible isn't the same as it being easy/hard. The lack of the political possibility is a strange outcome of this strange countries view of itself, the unwillingness of politicians or media to tell hard truths to the electorate. But we don't have to get back in because we haven't left - and not leaving is easy IF we had someone willing to step up. An election is coming - and someone is going to have revoke/ref2 in the manifesto. I think that is what will end this politically. All it takes is senior people to step up and stop pretending there is some benign brexit But I accept it's entirely possible the whole country is too afraid/polite to countenance such a thing

"I also think you're very optimistic on the 'enough people' looking at the polls and voting intentions. I think we're pretty much where we were." obviously we disagree on this - but that doesn't diminish the importance of measuring