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What laws have the made for us foxy? What is we want to do but can?t? And you are aware that we pay but also gain back right? Why after 3 years won?t facts penetrate?

To be fair to you foxy, on this thread, you haven?t. I guess it was the old ?foxy starts a thread moaning about a restaurant and Louisa pipes up with her usual? Pizza paces are ten a penny. Because they are relatively cheap. And tasty. Bang for buck. People (as in ?will of?) love pizza. What are ya gonna do? Not sure foxy has started a thread complaining about a new Indian restaurant - and what is the se22 Indian v pizza score these days?

Fark me 2019 and Louisa and foxy still banging on about pizza, class, wealth and health A tasty slab of pizza, filling you up in a restaurant setting for ?8 - truly the 1% have taken over Grow up you two. I know you haven?t managed it in at least 6 decades but give it a go

Let's remind ourselves what the forum thought when this started happening to Northern Rock in 2007 - before we realised what was to come: /forum/read.php?20,46411,46574#msg-46574

They don?t want us to know about it? So when it opens and actual people can see it, there will be outrage? Or will it be lots of people going ?cool, mini golf?

Lou. You voted leave and changed your mind Many others have done the same. How many? Don?t know But what if it was sufficient numbers to reverse the referendum result? That means we would be ploughing ahead with this crazy notion, doing harm to the country whilst simultaneously being against the wishes of the majority So no. I won?t be respecting the 2016 (and we are in 2019 now. 2016 seems like a lifetime ago) decision Now. If that 2016 decision was ratified in a follow up? Well clearly no amount of spluttering from remainers should get in the way of that. But come on. Despite bravado statements from some, most of us are pretty sure a second referendum would throw up a different result

I?m out of practice on this forum And too balls deep in Twitter. But I just went to ?like? that

Robbin has publicly excommunicated me - but I wouldn?t disagree with a single word of that

"Brexiteers and remaineder MPs house of lords bercow have all fcuked it up" Given the contradictions amongst leave voters, it was predestined to fail. How it has failed reflects May's personality - but it was always doomed to arrive at this point

"I still have a suspicion we may have to go through a no deal for at least a while" I'm inclined to think this is most likely too

You feeling better now then Foxy? I'm glad - but probably best if you didn't jump straight back to infantile "remainer cry-baby" type insults. You never know when someone will take exception at an inconvenient time. For example, someone might start getting cross with you just as you are taken ill again.

"A list of things the gov would change in order for the WA to be passed would be helpful (in fact, why is this not known)" Because the discussion is over. The Govt can change or say what they like but the discussion phase with EU is over The deal is the deal. So only options now are That Deal, No Deal or No Brexit (teh latter either via revocations or possibly via ref. I think Leavers should have had courage of their convictions re ref2 and had it. I think it's too late now and revocation is more likely)

Server has crashed at approx 617k sigs (won't stop some conspiracists thinking it's something more nefarious than a server overload)

" They have been exceptionally difficult and obstinate. " citation needed! EU have played their cards straight, been transparent and behaved exactly as everyone said they would What is different is that the Leavers like Davis, Gove etc, all promised it would be easy and they would roll over. You do remember that don't you? So they didn't rollover and that makes them exceptionally difficult?

are you near the railway track side? The train cos sometimes use machines at that hour It's an ungodly sound and woke me in quite a panic when I first heard it

Can anyone else help me out then? Which bit of my post is Robbin referring to when they say ""Not a single one of those projections was made on that basis, as you well know. I chose the examples carefully. So your observation is invalid." If they mean the claims in their post such as: " Loss of 500,000 jobs straight after the vote over > 2 years ago. Utterly false. (ETA - see below unemployment figures out today) " I don't understand why my link addressing that exact point is being dismissed I might not be making my points well, or clearly. But I'm not trolling

well I asked for clarification on your point and didn't get it What point am I missing?

Me: "The broad thrust of negative forecasts from > remainers have largely come true - companies will > leave, you won't get better trade deals, irish > border, losing freedom of movement rights etc etc " Robbin: "Not a single one of those projections was made on that basis, as you well know. I chose the examples carefully. So your observation is invalid." companies leaving example https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/14/eu-referendum-poll-1-in-3-firms-leave-uk-brexit trade deals https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36074853 Irish Border https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35502736 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-35692452 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/09/tony-blair-and-john-major-brexit-would-close-irish-border

Just for clarity, when you say ?on that basis? you mean Britain leaving the eu? You are saying those projections were not made on basis of Britain leaving eu?

People were talking about triggering A50 the day after the referendum. Some of the projections were specifically "after we leave the EU" https://www.gov.uk/government/news/britain-to-enter-recession-with-500000-uk-jobs-lost-if-it-left-eu-new-treasury-analysis-shows We haven't left yet, have we? The broad thrust of negative forecasts from remainers have largely come true - companies will leave, you won't get better trade deals, irish border, losing freedom of movement rights etc etc We are 2 weeks away from leaving with no deal - I would hold fire on any "everything is still great" type statements just now And this is all regardless of the reputational damage done to the country

I dunno Sue - he came close in 2015 and it was a surprise that that the population reversed their opinion at last minute Given what transpired between 2015 and 2017 I'd bet good money if Ed had stayed and steadied the ship, Labour would have won handsomely Then again, if I was leading the Labour party, I'd do a better job than the current imbecile

except that would never happen If Ed was leader of Labour, 2017 election would have been Labour's and May would be gone by now

Having done the move from se22 to Lewes (5 years ago) it?s a thumbs up from me The commute will depend on where in London you work (and your tolerance for the patchy train service)

The Phoenix is a Mitchell and butler pub (just like the Dog in DV) So of course it?s shit. It will always be shit with them in charge. At best they will find a bright young manager, who doesn?t know how m and b work. That manager might improve the pub briefly. But will do so at the cost of their physical and mental wellbeing This is the m and b way

Man on @Channel4News just now, voted Brexit, then bought a retirement home in Spain, didn?t realise he?d lose HIS freedom of movement, wishes he could vote again, Remain this time. - Do you think you might have shot yourself a bit in the foot. - A bit. Yeah. #jamoniberico