Sephiroth

just on it's own terms, not looking at other effects, a zero tarrif deal would only be about tarrifs. It would have little impact on rules of origins and would require significant red-tape and extra paperwork. SO like much of brexit, it requires a LOT of extra effort, the goodwill of other nations and risk of splitting up the union to achieve very little at all If the deal struck yesterday was the one advertised on buses 3 years ago would it have won? Not even close

Still waiting for ridge to respond

It is kind of exasperating that some people are only asking questions like this NOW were the last 4 years not enough? Better late than never I guess but even now I do wonder if it will change any opimion

Norway also has Freedom of Movement - a key item rejected by (many) Leavers

See also my question above

"The TOTAL population of Scotland is only 5.4 million by the way...." anyone want a go at what cuddly Glen means with this? Is he saying it's a small country and therefore doesn't as much ?

Boris says he has a brexit - Farage and co say otherwise So which leaver do we listen to? Does it matter? Ridgely - which version do you back and what do you say to the other party who say it's not (their) Brexit? Are they not being listened to?

Leaving us Paddies aside, I?d be curious to know about eu citizens in general. If they don?t register are they seriously going to be deported?

Anyone know what the plan is for people like me who won?t register. We going to be deported?

As an Irish passport holder but lived here for 33 years I don?t think I?m required to do it It might still be prudent to do it. And it may yet become a requirement if relations soured between the countries further But no chance am I going to actually do it. If it comes to them kicking me out I wouldn?t want to be here anyway

A country brought to its knees. By people as incurious and dumb as keano Out with a whimper, not a bang

If keano and glen haven?t figured out they are rubes on the wrong side of history by now, it?s unlikely they ever will (Confession: I briefly held out on the idea that keano might actually be open to evidence. I was wrong. So wrong)

"Michael from Dulwich" on LBC right now making a right tit of himself

there will never be any agreement between the EU and the UK's Brexit because everything the UK wants from Brexit is NOT allowed under the rules of the EU. Everything? really? Now Merkel is trying to stir up trouble by saying that NI should stay in the EU customs union....sneaky or what? Not sneaky and not new - just the same fact that has always been true that England doesn't want to address Brexit is making the EU machine face up to the fact that it is rubbish you have lost your mind - poor people exist in NI and Scotland as well you know - they haven't voted for this shitshow

"I'm surprised you even believe what a source from No.10 said. It's probably Cummings. I really don't buy the shit coming out of Downing Street." Well, that's a very good point!

I think if we proceed with no deal there will be riots yes - shortages of food and supplies do that to people If public votes to not proceed with brexit there won't be riots, no

Brexit is problematic because of what it is and what it means logistically - not because of remainers, the EU or anyone else Too many people who voted to leave have changed their minds for the 17m number to have any validity especially given the turmoil leaving with no deal with cause It has zero legitimacy. It doesn't need proceeding with - it needs to be stopped

What is that a solution to? That just leaves teh Uk leaving with no deal and all of the attendant problems Problems which people like you say aren't real now but who will blame the EU for when they transpire

Keano - that's absolute bobbins What she is saying is that "if we, Germany decide to leave the eu, we could without the problems the UK has" Not because the EU is forbidding them - but because of UK claim to Ireland. Germany doesn't have that. Thats' the comparison

I know those details - what is the "putting her foot in it" comment about? There is nothing new in any of this - The GFA agreement and the unique Ireland/Situation has always been a specific problem

go on then - what has she done?

Some great stories here When people claim 17million, they are including these people and people like them. It?s just not right https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/meet-the-leave-voters-who-have-changed-their-mind-on-brexit-a4254691.html

"Dig deep people" Mate, that is not deep As the years roll by, we will be paying a lot more than that to try and cope with the effects of climate change Not that that will bother you eh Glen? Like me, I suspect you are a man of age so won't be around to witness the damage

?Simple nihilism? Have you MET uncle before?

Let?s have some o?brien lies glen. I?m looking forward to this If he lies that much put him and us straight