ClareC

Baith

I was sick pretty much immediately labour started, unfortunately it continued during labour right up until i had an epidural. I was then sick afterwards (c section).. But that was a reaction to the drugs. I second the anti sickness drug, although second time round (elective c section) I needed a huge dose :( was sick every half hour for about 6 hours. It's a common reaction to anaesthetic apparently.

I've bought shoes for both my daughter and son, agree prices reasonable and comparable to Clarks etc

Are you still in the minimum term for your Assured Shorthold tenancy? Legally you have to be given at least two months notice, to end any time after the end of the Assured Shorthold tenancy. The repossesser will have no greater rights than the landlord in gaining possession from you. I would bank on getting at least 2 months notice but the reality is they will invariably sell the property so may not serve notice straight away.

Of course you can!! The more the merrier :)

I'm up for another meet. Will check my hugely busy social schedule but a cursory glance indicates free most nights mid week ;)

Surely they could have gone with the lesser charge of handling stolen goods.

Magpie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Respect and consideration for others is the > foundation of a civilised society - I'm with the > tutters Totally agree, the chap is out of order! It's not a police matter though, Henryb's post made me chuckle :)

Moos Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Adam&Fiona, puzzled by your post. > > Are you citing the example raised by DamianH on > p.3? I may have missed another one raised later > in the thread, but if you are the story is > different in your version, which is strange. > > The other thing that is puzzling is your saying > 'no-one is saying you shouldn't bring children > into pubs' - that was exactly the suggestion of > the OP, and quite a topic in the last few pages of > the thread. > > No reason why you can't raise your own topic, but > it's not a direct repetition of the thread in the > general section at all, and if you are citing > Damian's example, why have you made the behaviour > described so much worse? Totally agree Moos. Totally different to my recollection too, didn't have time to re read though to check. Glad you have confirmed what I thought!

henryb Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > can't believe i am actually asking this but > just > > out of interest, for what offence/ crime did > you > > have in mind? > > Crime! > > He has clearly violated one of the most import > rules the ED?s self appointed guardians of > civility have. > > If you do any of the following: > > Cycle on the pavement > Cycle through a red light > Have a late night party. > Let your dog shit in the park. > Take your badly behaved kids out for a meal in a > pub. > Take a baby in a pram anywhere. > Park your car badly. > Play your iPod on the train loudly enough for > other people to hear it. > > then you will feel the full weight of their > disapproving. They will tut, they will glare, they > will twitch their curtains, they will mutter under > their breath ?some people", eventually one will > come on a website and have good moan about you. > > You have been warned! (tu)

It all comes down to consideration. If everyone showed consideration to one another the world would be a far more pleasant place. The reality is some people are considerate, others inconsiderate. There are parents and non parents in both categories. I'm with Molly in that I actively avoid taking the buggy anywhere small, and on the bus for that matter. When I meet with friends it tends to be home, playgroups or the park. Dare i say it but pre toddler days the pubs worked well on the basis of having plenty of space for buggies. One NCT meet amounted to 6 buggies! funnily enough we didn't drink alcohol, just chatted and drank hot chocolate, sometimes had lunch whilst the babies slept, fed or played. The pubs were fairly empty in the daytime so more lucrative business was not being turned away and because we purposely chose spacious venues there was never any issue of buggies being in the way. These days with baby and toddler we tend to go to the parks / one another's homes, play groups etc.

Otta Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's not true either Otta. There's a marked > difference between a general dislike of children > and a concern that some people just aren't very > good at parenting. Not what many want to hear but > true. > > Someone said that posts didn't come across in the > way that you described them, and you said that > that wasn't true. How can you know how something > came across to someone else? > > I don't disagree with what you say in the above > quote at all, I am just saying that if people took > things differently, they may have misunderstood, > yes, but you can't say that it is untrue that > they've taken offence from your post. > > Anyway, I give up on this, I'm not even trying to > argue with anyone, but everything that gets said > on this thread seems to be taken apart, and > twisted, and life is frankly too short. I second that!!

It's not about apologising.... If something is taken not as intended then there is nothing to apologise about. It is in those circumstances usual to clarify what was actually intended, as would happen in a face to face conversation.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > So somebody who is oversensitive always perceives > 'the truth' ? > > And all their squabbles and defensive reactions > are justified. > > Come on, no-one believes that !! Not at all, everyone is unique. Some are offended easily some rarely. The important factor is the point where a person is aware their words (spoken or written) have been misunderstood and their subsequent act or omission.

If a person is offended the result is the same whether offence was intended or not. Once that offence is realised, on the basis it was not intended, then it can be rectified. Failure to do so would imply the interpretation is correct. The problem with the written word is it can easily be interpreted in a way that was not necesarily intended.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If people have taken something a particular > way, > > then it is true, whether intended or not. > > > That's not true either Otta. There's a marked > difference between a general dislike of children > and a concern that some people just aren't very > good at parenting. Not want many want to hear but > true. > > It should also be said (yet again) that most > parents are pretty good at this stuff, it's just > the ones that aren't are very apparent. Unfortunately the posts don't tend to come across as being directed at the minority of bad parents. there appears, to be huge generalisations and tarring all with the same brush. I am not just referring to this thread either. Back to the topic of this thread, I totally agree that kids being dragged to the pub frequently whilst their parents get pissed up is not right in any shape or form. A family having lunch / early dinner at a pub and the parents having a drink with their meal however is totally different.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > rahrahrah Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > If you read through this forum, it is clear > that > > there are a significant number of people with a > > real resentment, general dislike and > intollerance > > of children. > > This is a classic EDF misconception. I doubt many > (if any) posters really have that opinion of > children. Many here just think there are a fair > number of crap parents around. There's quite a > difference! Unfortunately doesn't come across that way.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TheArtfulDogger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > > (* the mums and buggies who insist that they > > should take the wheelchair spaces despite the > fact > > their is not enough room to swing a ticket > > inspector ! - however NOT all mums are that > bad, > > just a handful) > > xxxxxxxxx > > I think this is unfair. > > If there aren't any wheelchair users on the bus, > why shouldn't mums (and dads - who care for > children too) take the spaces? > > And if you've ever tried to fold a buggy up and > then get two kids plus shopping (or whatever) onto > a bus, and then try to get it all off and unfold > it at the other end, you would know why parents > tend to take the whole thing on. > > I have struggled with a double buggy plus my > granddaughters on and off buses in Oxford, and I > have only ever found both drivers and fellow > passengers to be helpful and polite. Just glad I > have never had to do it round here :-S > > Parents don't deliberately make things awkward for > other passengers. They just sometimes have no > choice as to how and when they make particular > journeys. > > ETA: And it makes a very stressful experience > worse if you have to let bus after bus go by > because you can't get the buggy on. Hear hear! Totally second that! I have two under two and a double buggy, I avoid travelling by bus like the plague due mainly because the strong anti parent / anti children feeling shown on here. On the one occasion I had no option but to travel on the bus, I actually felt quite concerned and apprehensive in anticipation. The reality was the ED people were friendly and helpful as is the reality when we are out and about walking. I can only assume the strong "anti" feelings published here on a daily basis is actually a very small minority who fortunately ive not encountered in the real world. If I didn't already live in ED and know what a great place it is with its great community, having read a number of comments on here I would avoid the place on account of the unfriendliness and lack of tolerance of others.

Paxos was lovely, we booked for next year whilst there! I will pm you the details of the villa.

We hired a villa in Paxos, just me, my partner, our then 20 mth old daughter and 4 1/2 mth son. Villa had 3 bedrooms and a pool and was perfect for a family holiday. Kids loved the pool, easy to keep baby in shade and for kids to sleep when they needed to. also had the bonus of having a washing machine. We would walk to a taverna for a late lunch (after kids nap) and then once the kids were in bed woukd spend evenings on our terrace with a glass of wine. We risked eating out a couple of evenings and it was OK, just more relaxing to eat out at lunchtime! Certainly was nowhere near as relaxing as without small children but far better than any hotel / apartment given we were not confined to a room post 7pm!

the-e-dealer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > They cant measure by revenue. There are millions > of travel card holders. They do head counts. I've > done the job - a few years ago. How do they count the heads? I had assumed it would be from touching in on the Oyster reader, ie paying.

Surely it's revenue not passengers.... If the majority of passengers on the bendy bus 12 didn't pay, the records must have shown the bus to be empty, rather than the reality of bursting at the seams and an unpleasant journey.

Price of diamonds (large stones) have been rising for some time now!

I bought my nephew an outside wooden playhouse in Costco, it was far more reasonably priced than any others I found and is well built and looks nice.

It's threads like that that make me embarrassed to live in ED!!! Course, having had a couple of glasses of wine this evening it's only a matter of time before Social Services come a knocking! Thankfully we are a two car family..... That must be major brownie points on the A&E run scale of competent parenting (but for my two glasses of wine which clearly render me as having an alcohol problem, unfit to parent and plastered!) Luckily the other half hasn't had a drink tonight..... His turn tomorrow ;-)