Spartacus

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I completely agree Spartacus. It is not just flu > that has been suppressed by these measures, but > also seasonal colds and chest infections. So there > is a lesson in there for all of us I think. Lol is the lesson "hermits don't get the lurgy" ? But again a good point, we all need better hands and face hygiene going forward into winters to additionally suppress winter illnesses

devs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Im going to be contentious here...Other than the > side streets being narrow, why would anyone object > to lorries going down them anyway? Barry Road is > wide but it is residential. Lordship Lane is also > residential(I live on it). Would it not be fairer > to share out the traffic evenly? > And perhaps enforce the 20mph speed limit. In a nutshell side streets are narrow, without passing room for a lorry and car to go in opposite directions so one or the other will have to back up or cause a log jam of vehicles The lorries thunder down the roads (not respecting the 20 mph limit) and if they hit a pedestrian not expecting them on a quiet street then it will be quite nasty. Basically side roads aren't designed for regular use by big lorries

What you are saying blah blah is perfectly correct However, it does give us an opportunity to start to fight back against flu spreading in future years. I have a feeling that hands, face and space or similar guidance will be here for a few winters to come. If that's the case then combined with the flu vaccine we could see flu going the same way as measles If people around the world aren't catching it on mass then it possibly won't mutate and be less virulent till it virtually dies out. One can but hope

Random thought of the day Two options if this event is going ahead 1. Organise a boycott of it so that it isn't a success 2. Organise a protest to occur at the same time to highlight the pollution the road closures are causing elsewhere Either work against it (option 1) or use it to your own advantage (option 2) Viva la Revolution

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Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I do wonder if people see a large lorry and > automatically presume it is taking a shortcut when > in fact it is making a delivery that cannot be > done in a smaller vehicle. Conway lorries are a > good example, I have seen them being used to > deliver materials for the plethora of pavement > replacement works that have been going on across > East Dulwich over the last few years. > One lorry I could agree but on one day this week I saw four Conway large lorries going past on one street so unless they are digging Criss rail 3 or a new underground station in East Dulwich then I dispute the assumption that they aren't taking short cuts but working on the pavements.

Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don't believe for one minute these huge lorries > are going down Goodrich Road. Apps will usually > send my cab along either Barry Road or Wood Vale > to get to my place rather than use Goodrich or > Dunstans Road as a shortcut. I've witnessed large lorries, including Conway and others using the Barry Road entrances into Upland, Sylvester and Whateley roads to get to lordship lane. I will speculate that they are coming from the rye end of Barry road and down side streets rather than going down the main roads to east dulwich roundabout. Possibly but not verified, to avoid traffic that is heavier due to the LTNs and closed streets. No traffic studies are bring conducted to look at weight of vehicles using our back roads vs main roads

Sky / now are showing The Blacklist

DulwichCentral Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Things could get a lot more inconvenient than > that > > https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/see-you > r-street-underwater-2050-17212413 We will all be driving electric cars by then so it will be down to other environmental issues.. not UK / European car drivers... But failing that I'm going to buy one of the disused DUKW vehicles that the tour company in London isn't using any more (they look like this : https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/23595/lot/143/) DC you need to get your DUKWs in a row if you are linking installing LTNs to stopping global warming as the UK and European car industry is being moved away from fossil fuels ...

Binge watched Zero Zero Zero on sky Tried Damien but not convinced (yet)

I'm now getting the next iteration of the Amazon prime renewal calls It goes "You have spent ?399 pounds on your amazon order and your purchase will be dispatched soon. If you did not make this purchase press 1 to cancel." Really can't wait to see what I bought, hoping it's at least something useful or frivolous like a drum kit so next time a spammer calla I can play my drums down the phone to them.😱

Just saw this on the news : BBC News - Car smashes into Newham house in early hours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-56174464 It happened in an LTN which is a bit weird.

With shows now starting to match actors to their roles Disabled Actors in Disabled roles LGBT Actors in LGBT roles BAME Actors voicing BAME characters in animations What's going to happen to characters like Peter Pan in pantos? Will political correctness see boys playing the leading roles and Dames being played by girls ?

James With the roadmap announcement last night and all covid restrictions to be removed no earlier than the 21st June, is there any justification to keep or install new driving restrictions which were imposed under the partial reason of "to enable social distancing to keep people safe from Covid" past the 21St June ? What's the councils stance on this ?

With last nights roadmap to unlocking announced and the plan for full restrictions to be removed no earlier than the 21st June, does this imply that making streets covid safe will also be removed ? Could make an interesting challenge to part of the reasons used by Southwark for closing off roads in East Dulwich and Peckham 🤔

I guess this is appropriate as a choice for chocolate (sorry DC, may not be up your street 😱)

21st June for everything, if all goes well Then we can really party like its 1999

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are there still Covid deniers , if so are their > numbers dwindling or rising? There are deniers (conspiracy theorists and such like) and vaccine refusers Both groups are not mutually exclusive and they may well die out as time goes by.

DulwichCentral Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @Rockets thinks it's 'very clever' to interpret > incomplete data to suit an agenda. > > There we have it. But that's what you have been doing by saying its only a small minority and going on about the pressure to get rid of cars As there's been no other formal or informal consultation (as you are dismissing the streetspace common place and other petitions) then you are only interpreting your hearsay and views of like minded people. Simple solution is a transparent, defined and fair consultation where the rules and assessment criteria are known in advance. But you never seem to agree to that. Why is that DC ? Are you afraid that you will find yourself in the minority ?

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe it's what we have to expect and live with in > age of the The Closure Cult ;-) I've searched desperately for what "the closure cult" sang I was hoping for "driving in my car" , "fast car" or "I drove all night" but instead it was "get out of my car" Disappointing 😱😂😂

DulwichCentral Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Everyone is free to openly support the LTN > if they want to. Again, its a free country. Interesting you say that yet you also said in an earlier post: "As pointed out above by @March46 the commonplace feedback is open to corruption, as was the petition against the closures which didn't request postcode verification." So which is it, people who don't live locally can get involved regardless of which side their support land on or they can't ? I'm nightly confused by what you actually want DC !🤔

Not according to the King of Leon BBC News - Leon boss warns longer lockdown 'will cost lives' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56137815

I'm sure that every person who's life is saved by a slow unlocking, wouldn't agree with your last statement Cat It's a matter of perspective, too slow for businesses and economy, but too fast to stop additional infections and deaths Not a roadmap I would want to draw up or be held accountable for.

And if the 729 were in favour of the LTN would you will be discussing it as unrepresentative ? That's democracy in action, whomever gets the majority vote (regardless of whom voted) wins

Abe_froeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The commonplace site isn't a southwark site, it's > owned by a private equity company. > > And if the comments are all bots then the > consultation needs to start all over again, going > door to door and the council need to get back the > money they have spent on it. Most sites like this are built and maintained by third parties including some of the tools on southwarks own website However the key is that the council told people to use it as a comment gathering service. Do you have any evidence of bot activity or are you just speculating?