NewWave

sorry but I dont see what 'entitlement' has to do with the post you've quoted? It IS a quiet residential side street. And when open Blue Brick just opens Weds-Sunday (or maybe thurs Sunday?) It doesn't trade at night has been there years and doesn't charge stupid prices either.

garages2018 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A note to redjam annd Newwave > would you say that if any one was knocked down, > and would you say that again > if you were to see older couples waiting to get > past. > The other reason i had to air my concern is I walk > that way many a time and customers will not > move chair or legs to till they are ask , sooner > or later there will be a fight if the wrong person > > comes a long (hopping it never happens . > It started with tables outside with a tables for > two and now four or six. > And waiting till May 16th will not change it but > just get worst. Firstly I am one half of an older couple (I think being in ones 60's counts as older) My post was made in defence of a much loved (by me and many others) small independent business which is one of the few places in the area that you can eat well for a tenner. People are very quick to scream "REPORT THEM" without thinking of the repercussions, fines and stress for the businesses involved by doing this. Speak to the people who run the place ...Ask that they put clear signs requesting customers dont push tables together if thats what's causing the problem. Also as someone who walks past pretty often I dont recall having a problem getting past unless someone had a buggy on the pavement-. I made the comment about Cafe Nero (I wrongly put Costa because to me there coffee chains are all the same) because if you MUST hound anywhere dont hound a small business that has been unable to trade for much of last year and 4 months of this one....complain about dilveroo bikes blocking pavements outside Pizza chains by all means, and takeaways having motorbikes on the pavement Do not hound the little guys trying to make a living a providing a valuable service to locals and the staff at Kings during the Pandemic.

redjam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Blue Brick Cafe is a lovely little local > business who have been busy distributing free > veggie meals to frontline workers at Kings during > lockdown. Like all independent cafes they have > suffered enormously over the last 12 months. > Personally I'm just happy to see them open again > and making a bit of money. Have a heart, people. Totally agree! Are we sure they are talking about Blue Brick cafe? I didn't think it was open today? And can people please realise that this is not a major thoroughfare so to be honest I would feel ok walking in the road for the distance that a few tables would take up..its not like its as busy as Lordship lane. We should be supportive of small local businesses at this time NOT reporting them Report Costa please..they are blocking pavement on Zenora road and they can afford to pay fines.

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > We have been advised not to ask customers to > put > > their masks on because a customer became very > > abusive to a staff member and threatened him > (the > > customer got ejected by security because of his > > behaviour-shouting and yelling at the staff > member > > and telling him he couldn't tell him what do > and > > he'd get him sacked etc) > > It makes me so sad and angry to read that. After > the past year, some people are still pushing back > on taking basic precautions. Not only are they > endangering themselves and others, there's a high > chance that this ridiculous attitude is going to > push our country back into lockdown. It's just so > selfish and ignorant. And unfortunately > unsurprising to hear that these individuals are > also of an aggressive persuasion. > > I am still avoiding shops when I can (and pubs, > depsite the outdoors seating) because for me it > seems like an unnecessary risk at a crucial time. > But you deserve respect for the work you are > doing.. wishing you and your shop a pleasant and > successful weekend. Thank you so much for these posts. My friend sent me a picture of the crowds outside Harrods today- it was mind-blowing and actually quite scary everyone in massive crowd no social distancing no masks. And the annoying thing is that the Government allow shops to reopen but not theatres and cinemas where so much has been done to socially distance the seats and limit the amount of people allowed in. Baring in mind that many people who work in the theatre will not have received any furlough money because of the nature of their contracts and work.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sending hugs, NewWave. > > Does the shop where you work not ask customers to > wear masks? Yes They do-and we have security on the door telling them to wear a mask and sanitise their hands. However once inside the mask goes down or gets removed and we dont have enough security staff to approach every person and tell them to put masks back on. We have been advised not to ask customers to put their masks on because a customer became very abusive to a staff member and threatened him (the customer got ejected by security because of his behaviour-shouting and yelling at the staff member and telling him he couldn't tell him what do and he'd get him sacked etc) People can be selfish and horrible forgetting that very many shop staff had to work throughout the pandemic and were a sort of 'key worker' meeting their needs for food or non essential goods all the while mindful that over 100.000 retail workers have been made redundant in the pandemic. Sorry to moan-I'm lucky to have a job but I do wish people were more respectful of those in service industries. We have families and loved ones we haven't been able to see and many of us are carers and single parents Ditto Security are just doing their job. None of us earn a fortune we are there to serve and help you not put our health and that of our loved ones at risk by doing so.

AylwardS Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hope your first day goes ok and most people are > ok. Thank-you! Its quite a shock to the system suddenly seeing so many people and as expected very many seemed to think the Pandemic is over and not bothering with masks in the shops-So disrespectful. Shop staff (like myself) HAVE to wear masks to protect the customers but sadly nobody thinks about us or our families especially when many of us haven't had the 'luxury' of working from home but have had to work throughout EVERY lockdown supporting online business and click and collect. Sometimes the selfishness of some members of the public saddens me.

Was this your 1st or 2nd dose? I had Pfizer and felt much much worse after the 2nd shot than I did the 1st.

Well said. My first day back with the public tomorrow and to say I'm nervous is an understatement! The thing I'm most dreading is the people who because they can shop in a store again feel its ok not to wear a mask. Its bad enough on the tube with so many not bothering to obey the rules I think West end shops will be full of idiots thinking everything is 'normal'

LJC56 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Arapina, a new bakery advertising healthy > lifestyle baking, is open in the old Threshers, > and smells delicious. And how great to see that > shop space being used after what must be 20 years > empty. How many bakeries does one road actually need? I'm actually got 'bakery fatigue"

I had my First Pfizer shot mid Feb-aside from a sore arm for a couple of days only other side effect was feeling very tired the next day and slight headache. 2nd shot-Pfizer yesterday evening I feel like I have the flu-aching all over and tired. intermittent headache and shivers. Helped by having a Lemsip. grateful to have had my 2nd dose!

I went to school with Bill Oddie's daughter...FACT!

sounds par for the course for this government so far.

My OH had his 1st jab on Friday. Astra Z : he hasn't had Covid. Side effects-one on the day but the next day he felt slightly fluey,achey but nothing major

done thank you for posting this

drewd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Clearly lots of people have mental health problems > (many have health anxiety which is made worse by > the sight of people not wearing masks in public > places!). But only a minority of people have a > problem wearing a mask. Binkylilliput's post that > portrays mental health problems and masklessness > as almost one and the same thing is frankly > ridiculous and an attempt to silence those who > have valid concerns about the risks posed by those > not wearing masks. > > If the staff in Gails or anywhere else cant wear > masks for health reasons they should wear a > prominent badge that explains that. A guy in my > corner shop had no mask on the other day. I asked > why. He said he was exempt which was pretty funny > as a few days earlier he'd had one hanging from > his chin. Similarly, a guy in the Sainsbury's > Local on Lordship Lane is almost never wearing his > mask but frequently has it hanging round his chin. > Today he was talking loudly and constantly to a > colleague, spraying his aerosol for everyone to > enjoy. I have complained the to the manager about > him. > > And enough with the "you're a nasty person shaming > others for not wearing masks". I don't want to > catch Covid and I don't want to give it to anyone > else. And I certainly dont want long Covid. I act > accordingly. I don't think it cruel or > unreasonable to expect other people to do the > same. Well said!

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Beware psychosomatic/anxiety effects - I'll > definitely be having them as I can feel aches > coming on after receiving my text to go in and > have the vaccination. > > I'll update how I feel next week though - > hopefully I'll say none. I'm sure you'll be fine! I was expecting all sorts of side effects and thankfully the ones I had were minimal and bearable.

I work in a shop and we are are working through the Lockdown dealing with online orders and telephone orders whilst the store is closed-We all wear masks all day except some staff members who are exempted for medical reasons and they HAVE to wear a badge or some have a laminated sign they wear on a lanyard-this rule has been laid out by our health and safety team. This was also the case when the store was open, although one of those staff members chose to wear a visor when facing the public as he felt more commutable that way. The people that I object to are the muppets who just dont want to wear a mask or think its somehow macho or 'cool' not to do so.

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > jimlad48 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > > > They don't have to though, and they shouldn't > > be > > > forced to. > > > > > > God I hate and despise the mask facists. > > > > Wearing a mask protects others from catching > YOUR > > germs if you have the virus and are > asympomatic. > > I H**E and D*****E people like YOU who are > > contributing to the rediculous death toll in > this > > country and the loss of many thousands of jobs > and > > businesses. > > You are selfish and ignorant. > > I wear a mask for 12 hours a day at work and on > my > > daily commute-I hate wearing a mask but I would > > hate even more knowing that I may unwittingly > > infect someone who goes on to lose their life > or > > that of a loved one because I "dont want to wear > a > > mask' > > Friends of mine have lost their jobs, Friends > of > > mine have lost family members-And people like > YOU > > JIMLAD48 make me feel nauseous > > I wear my mask where I need to actually you > terribly judgemental person. > > What I despise is the horrid nasty people who go > out of their way to shame people who may have > perfectly good reasons for not wearing one. Its > your judgemental attitude trying to shame people, > who have done nothing wrong, and in the process > shame business struggling to survive for the sake > of the perceived moral high ground. > > Given that most of the area is practically COVID > free, those that are vulnerable are vaccinated, > and those who aren't have little to fear, perhaps > we could lose the creeping fascism of shaming > those who cannot avoid being different and accept > that the world isn't going to end, that actually > the risk is incredibly low, and that we need to > get on with our lives, and not act in terror of > something that poses very little threat to most > people now due to vaccines and age profiles. > > Instead we're seeing people shaming individuals > who may have personal circumstances that mean they > can't wear one, and that we should publicly shame > and humiliate them for the crime of being > different. Thats a really horrid thing to do - to > target someone for no reason other than your own > prejudice and desire to be outraged that people > may not be able to conform, even if they > desperately want to. 'Adhere and belong or be > shamed' - that sort of attitude would fit in well > in Berlin in the late 1930s. Its not nice, its a > horrible way to isolate and shame people who have > done nothing wrong - don't assume that because > people aren't wearing, they are somehow doing > something wrong. > > > > . I wasn't commenting on those exempted from wearing a mask. and I was not the OP complaining about staff not wearing masks in Gails. My comment was in direct response to your comment about people 'dont have to wear masks and visors and they shouldn't be forced to' If people are NOT exempt they should be reminded that it is mandatory to wear a mask in a shop or on public transport. However as you correctly state we cannot 'force' anyone to do anything however I would hope that respect for the health and safety of others would prevail. You came across in your post as an anti mask wearer and if I misunderstood I apologise.

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > They don't have to though, and they shouldn't be > forced to. > > God I hate and despise the mask facists. Wearing a mask protects others from catching YOUR germs if you have the virus and are asympomatic. I H**E and D*****E people like YOU who are contributing to the rediculous death toll in this country and the loss of many thousands of jobs and businesses. You are selfish and ignorant. I wear a mask for 12 hours a day at work and on my daily commute-I hate wearing a mask but I would hate even more knowing that I may unwittingly infect someone who goes on to lose their life or that of a loved one because I "dont want to wear a mask' Friends of mine have lost their jobs, Friends of mine have lost family members-And people like YOU JIMLAD48 make me feel nauseous

Signed! The background to your story resonated with me having gone through a similarly dreadful time in the space of a year. I sincerely wish you every success in this-you deserve to have this sanctuary and shouldn't be put in fear of losing your home. Good luck!

Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Been into Gail's in Dulwich Village twice in the > last week, and each time there were staff members > not wearing masks. First time it was someone > behind the counter, and second time it was a > different person behind the counter and some kind > of manager doing the books at one of the tables. > The second server had a badge saying something > like "I'm exempt from masks". > > I understand there are some people exempted from > wearing face masks for health reasons...but it > seems a remarkable coincidence that so many work > at the same shop. Even if they are exempt in their > ordinary life - seems like in the middle of a > global pandemic it would be a legitimate > requirement of the job to wear a face covering > when handling food and drink in a busy cafe. If > you can't do that bit of the job, maybe you > shouldn't be allowed to work there? You wouldn't > get hired as a firefighter if you couldn't put the > helmet on... Since it bothers you so much why didn't you raise it with the manager in the shop mentioned? I'm not defending Gails by any means but you say you witnessed the non wearing of masks on two occasions then came on the forum to complain. Perhaps you should have gone to the person in charge to complain on the spot then emailed head office? THEN posted on this forum if upon a third visit things hadn't changed. Also considering their customers probably dont mainly come from ED (we have enough bread and coffee shops in and around Lordship lane thank you very much) posting this won't actually make any difference to their behaviour or their takings.

bodsier Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm compelled to write this because I really think > that its even more important nowadays to think > things through. I totally understand and comply to > the covid rules....however after a year it does > start to have a detrimental impact. If you dont > run ( not great for some due to the impact on > joints) and walking is not a cardio vascular > challenge ...I was so happy to come across people > exercising outdoors socially distancing and Having > a great time. When I joined It was my lifeline > and...clearly was also beneficial to all others in > their 50s to get out and get fresh air whilst > exercising. It's been wonderful for physical and > psychological health. I spoke to one woman today > who had said that she was suffering mentally > earlier today and coming out to do aerobics was > protective of her mental health which was now > deteriorating following the long lockdown. It was > such a shame to be met with 2 policemen before we > had even started. Told to disband due to there > being more than 2 people gathering. Someone had > complained.... isnt it important that we think > outside the box here. Exercise is so incredibly > important but I find it so hard to motivate myself > at home. I want to exercise outside and as I used > to swim... I cant do that at present so aerobic > exercise is such a great alternative. > > It honestly was so therapeutic and we always kept > 2 metres apart and NONE of us have contracted > covid in the time we have been doing this. Please > if anyone is tempted to report gatherings could > you at least wait until you see it as unsafe..... > the lack of exercise is having such a detrimental > effect on us physically and mentally it may just > mean we add to the burden on the NHS and the > economy. If we listened to Boris we'd have booked > our holidays for the summer and be spreading the > virus further and wider. Instead I'm staying > put.remaining in London..keeping my distance and > staying safe. I would never put mine or other > people's lives at risk. Let's use our common sense > in these difficult times and not turn against each > other. Please When the police dont respond to this /forum/read.php?5,2114482 A man threatening a family and making obscene suggestions at a small child and then going to intimidate and strike terror into two young girls I find it hard to believe they actually tuned up to break up a socially distanced group of people exercising-especially when there were many people in groups in the parks eating picnics over the weekend.

emu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > My daughter and her friend were approached > yesterday (27/02/21) at 1745 by a man in Peckham > Rye Park. They were sitting on a log chatting near > the edge of the park adjacent to Harris boys. > Before they had a chance to realise he was heading > for them very quickly he was stood right in front > of them ( they were seated on a log). He then told > them not to move and to be very quiet. He removed > his backpack and took out a bike D lock which he > threw on the ground in front of them. Then he > started to rant about black slavery and called > them names like little white bitches and worse. He > stood very close, the girls felt very threatened > and froze not sure what he would do if they were > to try and get up and run. My daughter tried very > hard to make eye contact with a couple with a > small child on a bike passing by but they failed > to recognise the girls were in distress. My > daughters friend started crying uncontrollably > then the man told them they could go the whole > situation lasted a couple of minutes. They got up > and ran towards the bottom of Barry Rd till they > were sure he wasn't following and rang 999. > Unfortunately after 1 hr the police still had not > showed up. The police have come for statements > today. > He is a black man 30ish about 6ft and was wearing > jeans and a black hoodie, maybe the same guy as > the original post above. This incident has been mentioned here: https://se23.life/t/agressive-person-in-the-peckham-rye-park/17118/7

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There has been some suggestion that side effects > are more marked if the person being vaccinated has > had Covid-19. (And, as a corollary, for those that > have had a second vaccine that their side effects > have been worse than when they had the first). > > Perhaps those who have had significant side > effects (worse say than a partner) could include > with their feedback whether they have had, or > suspect they've had, Covid already. Excellent idea! And also updates in symptoms after the 2nd jab would be helpful I feel