NewWave

Lockdown was over the moment Dominic Cummings took the P*** and didn't lose his job or resign. Makes the rest of us look like muppets for obeying the rules.

Its one rule for them another for us poor bastards who get packed off to our blue collar jobs whilst the virus is still in full throttle. I cant visit my loved ones and now I have to return to work with no idea of when I'll feel safe to actually see them because of having to use the tube and trains. This lot make me puke. the biggest death toll per head of the population in the world and people think Boris is doing a good job.

tradingfiddle Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I went past this morning and saw that a car had > crashed into the back of a bus and the roof had > been cut off to free the occupant(s). Oh gosh thats awful! thanks for the info. I hope everyone is ok. Ive seen some deplorable driving on the south circular last few days lots of speeding and overtaking on wrong side of the road. Not saying that was the case her but we need some cameras on that stretch.

I noticed around 11am a police car was blocking the Dulwich common part of the Soth circular it was still there a few hours later with no traffic going through. Hands up I'm merely being nosy..does anyone know why this was?

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today in dulwich woods I was saddened to see rubbish strewn around the bins never seen it so bad

Growlybear Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm not sure the lockdown ever really began for my > neighbours. They have had a nanny going in to > look after their children every week day since the > beginning of the lockdown, despite neither of them > being key workers. They've had yet another > gathering today, with several other couples inside > the house and in the garden, with several young > children playing closely together in the garden > and also going off inside. To make things worse, > I saw some of the adults picking up and hugging > other people's children. When they catch the > virus in the second wave, which I am sure will > come, I suppose these same selfish idiots will > expect to be treated by the doctors and nurses who > have put their own lives on the line for months > now to save people who have been infected. This makes me so angry its the entitlement of those sorts of people. where as I and others are on furlough worrying about our job security unable to see loved ones living on reduced incomes and reduced socialisation they consider themselves untouchable and unable to forfeit their cleaners and their little get-togethers. people like that make me puke and are a danger to themselves and the rest of us.

Monkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We?re continuing to keep safe as are our friends > and family and will not be sending our daughter > back to school. My parents in law - who are > sticking to the rules religiously and being > laughed at by their neighbours and ?friends? for > doing so - are very sad not to see their > grandchildren. Cummings?s and Johnson?s impossibly > entitled behaviour are another kick in the teeth > for them. Forget the joggers and look at what?s > happening at the top. Yup!

last one its more eye-catching the other two look like a lot of other book covers good luck

Cyclemonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Plenty of people work low paid jobs and do not get > free travel, what makes working over 60s so > special? Most people still working who are over 60 are probably like myself in low paid jobs. The free travel makes a real difference to my weekly outgoings as I tavel from zone 3 to zone 1. Chances are people in well paid jobs are more likely to have the option to retire at 60 as I have a few friends my age where once they hit 60 they were able to take their company pension and retire lots of us in shop work, cleaning,catering etc have to wait until we get our state pension before we can retire.

I've been sticking to the guidelines only leaving home for shopping and walks and keeping 2m distance as well as wearing mask. However Its frustrating how many people dont seem to take this seriously. Just today I was queuing to buy some food and a car drove by close to the kerb windows down and someone leaned out of the window and sneezed really loudly straight at us then everyone in the car laughed just as loudly as the the sneeze. 2nd thing that happened today...a young female jogger on pavement brushed alongside my arm running on a narrow stretch of pavement -As this is not the 1st time someone has done this (weirdly its young white female joggers who seem to consistently run into the back of me or brush alongside me, perhaps men are more specially aware?) I shouted loudly as she ran in front "IDIOT ITS 2 METERS YOURE SUPPOSED TO DISTANCE!" she didn't even turn round or hear me oblivious with her headphones on (also goes with the profile-always young white female headphones) I really do despair tbh

ctovey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just a quick update - London Councils have not yet > had clarification from TFL and Dept of Transport > as to what the restrictions will be on use of > Freedom Passes, so they can still be used as usual I hope this is true-as I've heard only after 9.30am which scuppers me going into work

mary123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dawson Hill is a public area and not linked to > Dawson Heights estate, it runs parallel along > My Addon Park and Dunstons Road Ah sorry-My mistake!

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Being offered advice by science and choosing > whether to take it, are two different things. > Government is engaged in balancing public health > vs economy and given that different political > parties have different views on what matters most > within an economy, it is only logical to argue > that a different party or different leadership for > that matter, may have had a different approach. > Whether or not that would have led to different > outcomes is unknowable. > > Boris himself said in an interview that he did not > take the virus seriously enough in the beginning. > HE said that. He also said that getting in and > almost dying is what made him realise he was > wrong. That is pretty clear for everyone to > comprehend. We have the highest death toll in > Europe for a reason. We need to understand why. > > My view is this. We have been impacted in exactly > the same ways as every country that failed to > respond fast enough in the beginning. We are > seeing the same trajectories as everywhere else, > with the same spread of age and demographic > impact. There is only one differential. The speed > and extent of response between countries. Lives > absolutely could have been saved with an earlier > response and better preparation. At the same time, > lives absolutely were saved by the speed with > which the NHS was geared up. But that all should > have happened earlier. Lack of national stocks of > PPE (something that should be in place at all > times) absolutely lies at this government's door. > They directed funding away from maintaining those > supplies into no deal Brexit preparations. There > is no getting away from that. Spot on!

Yes surrounding areas really do smell of wee and I have even seen soiled underwear thrown under a hedge. The lack of any public loos has been a bit of a mare tbh on my daily exercise in this hot weather I'm scared to drink any water because I'm sure to need the loo (older persons bladder problems!)so I get home utterly parched!

Since Dawson Hill is Social Housing I would contact Southwark council. most social housing estates have a designated estate warden/caretaker or they did on my mums one Or I would imagine theres a residents association

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not fit to lead, IMO wasn't fit to lead before > Covid anyway. > Bojo's last 'appearance' in the HoC was silly from > what I heard on radio, Kier Starmer asking an > obvious question about care home protections based > on a select committee yesterday where unfortunate > truths were aired, BoJo answering a completely > different question that was not asked (three times > !) and floundering badly while doing so. I can't > say that was due to his being not fully recovered > from Covid, I don't actually care, he was to me > obviously playing with different articulations to > play-down a very serious point from Labour. > > dbboy - I think JoB is genuinely aghast that a > person such as BoJo can actually become leader in > this country, that so many lies can be told around > Brexit with no comeback, that blatant lies can be > told during conferences to the public/media with > no accountability and he invites callers to air > their concerns - some whom agree with JoB, some > who don't. Let's be frank, it's hard to find > positives with the Govt, it's leadership, Brexit > dealings and handling of Covid19. Isn't it ? Agree 100% I wish he'd fess up that he's made a bloody mess of this whole thing and step down-he has the blood of 1000's on his greasy little paws.

Alan Medic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I've seen a German cartoon and a NY Times article > which suggests that much more than 2 meters > distance is likely to be necessary to be safe in > the vicinity of joggers. The following is behind a > wall but you can read the start of it, which > explains the thinking. > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/well/move/runni > ng-social-distancing.html Can someone please flypast this article around all our parks and pavements please..I've had it with Joggers oblivious to social distancing..NOT all BUT a large enough number to have made me avoid walking on the Rye and roads alongside

womanofdulwich Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If you are working, why is it unfair? Because I'm a low paid job if you must know-and before you ask I still get paid more than if I worked locally and could walk. Does that answer your question? ?8 per day because I choose (yes choose..shoot me down if you want)to take the quickest route to work which is Overground and underground-I often finish work late in the evening and want to get home at a decent hour rather than walk from the bus to my house at 11pm at night. I've worked since I was 13 (it was legal to work saturdays then)as a shop worker paid tax all my adult life and the retirement age for people in jobs like mine goes up and up (people I know in posh jobs have retired at 60) as a tax paying londoner having always paid my council tax and never claimed benefits I was relieved to be saving money by not needing an oyster card when I reached 60-that made a big difference to my monthly outgoings

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m still as irritated by those who don?t behave > responsibly (joggers being a particular pain in > the arse) but I?ve already said all I need to say > about it. Rest assured I?m still annoyed at a lot > of people! Same-I was walking up DKH and I heard visually in my ear someone say "excuse me" I turned and so close behind me she brushed my arm as she ran past was a young jogger-There was no traffic in the road and she could have moved to the edge of the pavement and not been literally right on my heel. So annoying!

I only discovered yesterday from a neighbour who was emailed about the changes that I will no longer be able to use my freedom pass to get into work as its suspended during peak travel. This is so unfair-It assumes that us over 60's dont have commitments to get into work at a certain time and can just sit on our butts and leave home when we want. With the retirement age going up every year plenty of us over 60's HAVE to work and at roughly ?8 a day to get into work 5 days a week this makes a big dent out of my weekly salary its deeply unfair.

yeknomyeknom Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ok. I know how this forum goes. However, someone > has died. There are children involved. If you > don?t approve, don?t give. Please can we at least > keep this thread kind? well said.

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Art Deco Mark Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > "GO OUT IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT BUT TRY NOT TO > CATCH > > IT. GO TO WORK IF YOU WANT TO BUT BE CAREFUL. > > DON'T EVER SAY WE DIDN'T WARN YOU IF IT FLARES > UP > > AGAIN, IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT" I think this was > what > > Boris was saying on Sunday or did I get it > wrong? > > I don't blame him for giving out this message. A > great many people have not followed the stay at > home etc advice since day 1 and after the weekend > trying to advise the Great British Public what to > do is impossible....just pop over to Alleyns' > field > The real reason why Wales is still 'staying at > home' > https://news.sky.com/story/every-patient-was-a-dru > nk-injury-despair-over-bank-holiday-a-e-admissions > -11986373 > and Manchester > https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/doctors-desp > air-boozy-bank-holiday-22002353 > and the Tube > https://www.eagleradio.co.uk/news/uk-news/3100190/ > coronavirus-commuters-pack-london-tube-platforms-a > fter-pms-lockdown-announcement/ > > > If they all want to risk their necks and go out > well then -let them. I'm going to look after > myself and hope the reckless go back to work very > soon Its not the 'reckless' that go back to work..those returning to work need the money and it states if the business asks you to go in and you refuse you won't get paid. simple. what a thoughtless offensive post! anyone who can afford to stay at home would right now..do you think the staff if Sainsburys are 'reckless' sorry but this has made me SO angry. we dont all have the luxury of being able to work from home on a computer looking out at our pretty gardens and worrying about our holidays abroad.

Sally Eva Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friend of mine in that position rides a tricycle > (an adult size one obvs) > check out Wheels for Wellbeing > pictures here: https://wheelsforwellbeing.org.uk/ > > > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sue Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > NewWave Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a > > > bike > > > > and aged over 60 I dont want to try and > learn > > > on > > > > Londons roads. > > > > > > > > > Obviously they aren't happening at the > moment, > > but > > > you can get free cycling lessons. They are > one > > to > > > one, and they start off in the park (Dulwich > > or > > > Peckham Rye). I can't remember who runs them. > > > > > > I was well over 6O when I had them. > > > > > > Also, there are routes through London which > > enable > > > you to avoid the busiest main roads and > > > interchanges (not sure that's the right > word!) > > > > > > I really cannot ride a bike-not only am I > scared > > to but I have problems with my balance so > wobbling > > across london is not an option I'm afraid even > > though I wish it was Thank you for the link..sounds like a great charity. but I'm not disabled. I could ride an adult tricycle for sure but have no idea where I'd leave in in the west end whilst I was at work. I think I'm just going to have to get mask and gloves and use the tube and overground like before sadly

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > > > Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a > bike > > and aged over 60 I dont want to try and learn > on > > Londons roads. > > > Obviously they aren't happening at the moment, but > you can get free cycling lessons. They are one to > one, and they start off in the park (Dulwich or > Peckham Rye). I can't remember who runs them. > > I was well over 6O when I had them. > > Also, there are routes through London which enable > you to avoid the busiest main roads and > interchanges (not sure that's the right word!) I really cannot ride a bike-not only am I scared to but I have problems with my balance so wobbling across london is not an option I'm afraid even though I wish it was