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Has anyone else noticed an increased number of cars on the road? Even though there are considerably less cars on the road than normal I have noticed the number of vehicles creeping up over the past week. I especially noticed this yesterday walking along lordship lane. with Supermarkets closed on Easter Sunday I couldn't help but wonder where these people were going, many of the cars housed a lone occupant which made me question if people were out visiting friends especially as a lot of the drivers from what I could see looked younger. or were they driving to open spaces in the fine weather? Which raises the question how much of this was essential travel? I dont want to be a grumpy old woman but I keep seeing little examples of people not taking this seriously enough, ignoring social distancing, someone on my street had a car containing visitors turn up...I said nothing because i was afraid to do so and didn't want to appear a 'nosy neighbour' but happened to see the car pull up whilst cleaning my windows. I'm pretty damn sure they hosted a BBQ. I dont want a total lockdown where we are not allowed to leave our homes as I for one would lose my mind not being able to leave my home. And what's more with the lack of policing due to cuts even if we did go into total lockdown people would still ignore knowing they wouldn't get caught. But I'm going off topic Has anyone else noticed an increased amount of cars on our roads? As well as more speeding.

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KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not just customers in organic village, the > staff also seem to forget there's a 2m rule ! Yes I would agree with that too.

Brandome19 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi , thank you for your concern. We do normally > allow only 6 customers in the shop at one time . > It may be the case that the supervisor on duty > wasn?t do his job properly. May I ask what time > did you go in. From now on I will make sure this > doesn?t happen again. Apologies for the > disappointment. -Organic village market Hello thank you for your response. I usually shop around 11.30 A.M or there abouts as I find shops are generally quieter in the morning or late morning. I love your shop and dearly want to support you as you have great produce. Please try and sort this out as I have walked away empty handed having walked the length of Lordship Lane specifically to shop with you. Thank you

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KK - wasn't being sarcastic - you seem to be > having a daily run-in with runners - no pun > intended. From my experience that seems unlucky - > as from my own observations I am not having the > same experience as you: I have been out for my > daily exercise since the lockdown began and had > one incident with a runner - I chastised them for > their foolishness in the hope they would not do it > again to anyone else. > > My point was quite clear - there are idiots (not > just runners) who are risking their health and the > health of others by ignoring the rules. The > government is modelling this (I think they > estimate it can be anything up to 30% of the > population who will be non-conformist) and they > will have a point when they will trigger a most > stringent lockdown to help control the curve. > > Timing is key - you have to phase the lockdown and > the degrees of severity therein. You can clamour > for a hard lockdown but you cant do that from the > get-go because research and experience elsewhere > shows (unless you are in China and the populous is > more scared of the government than the virus) that > after 10 - 14 days people start going back to > normal. I'm sorry but it isn't only KK every time that I have been out I have either A; Had a run in with a jogger..or to be more precise have a jogger ignore the distancing rules and run right alongside me sometimes within inches. And B; Cyclists cycling on the pavement causing me to have to step into peoples gardens or into the road to create space. Finally Parents with young children..please be mindful and make sure your child retains a distance from those on the pavement..I may have the virus or your child could and give to an elderly passer by. This morning I was walking along the pavement and a woman was allowing her child to just run ahead of her on its scooter..the child passed within inches of me and when I stepped back off the kerb visibly shocked that the kid (about 7 years old) had brushed right near my shopping bag the mother tutted and shouted "oh for heavens sake! he's only a child!" yes..he was and therefore its her responsibility to protect the health and wellbeing of her child as well as that of others.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One of my Favourite indies on Lordship Lane is > Organic Village. > It has continued to stock many things we all > need. > > Unfortunately it seems to of been a victim of its > own success. > > I went there today and it was RAMMED. FULL of > people with no attempt to limit the amount of > people in at one time. > > I expressed my disapproval that there were Too > many people in the shop. > But with NO response. > > I will in future be very careful before I go > there again. > > DulwichFox Same..I just cannot go there until they limit the amount off people in the shop!

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "William rose, mons and moxtons all have a great > queuing process." > > William Rose doesn't inside the shop! The only > decent distancing is done by those queueing > outside if you're lucky. Yes Agree William Rose is great outside very organised but allowing more than 1 customer in there at a time means it all goes to pieces-I really hope they limit 1 person (or an adult with child ) in the shop at a time. I actually won't return until they do-the last time I went it was actually scary me and another guy just bumping into each other within a really small area

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The government has clarified what it doesn't want > parks closed unless there is no way of social > distancing > > https://www.itv.com/news/london/2020-04-06/parks-m > ust-only-close-if-distancing-impossible-to-maintai > n-says-minister/ > > On a more local note > > 'Labour MP Harriet Harman tweeted that opening up > green spaces such as school playing fields was an > ?excellent suggestion?.' She is a wonderful MP

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Please, if you?re jogging, don?t brush past > people. If you have to slow / break your flow to > go round, just do it. I swear to God there are > people who won?t even slightly alter their chosen > path even for a global pandemic. Same with cyclists on pavements of which I've encountered many in the past week

I seriously fear I will go crazy if I can't leave my house and go for a solo walk. as usual the few will ruin it for the many

ED Bird Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mainly young couples hogging the pavements of > Upland/NCR & LL right now. Even those who are > clearly aware of the situation; using loud speaker > between them, telling their friends they look > forward to seeing them soon... meanwhile, hogging > the streets & oblivious of other people. > > I've given up on pavements completely. I walk in > the street & dip in between cars whenever I need > to. This hasn't made anyone on the pavement more > aware of just how much they're hogging it. Ditto

so upsetting! I as well as others need this outside space this piece of nature to centre me and bring me solace. a selfish few have ruined it for many. thanks you selfish b*******s

mako Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are in an area thats about the 10th most > affected in the uk and people refusing to even > give up jogging on our busiest pavements in order > to literally save lives. Maybe when they realise > that lockdown will go on for much longer as a > result they may take notice. Same as those pub > goers when they knew what was coming but were > still 'allowed'to pub so went anyway. Its the attitude of self entitlement that I can't bear. We are so lucky to be allowed to walk (or jog) to our green space please just be thankful for that privilege because its not a right (where my friend lives in France they are not allowed to do any of these things or even ride a bike)at this moment in time it is a privilege and the more people ignore the 2m rule the more likely that privilege will be taken away and then you can jog round your bloody living room

Hi saw the photo placed in the lounge section I would say I'm 75% sure it wasn't them your two both look more asian than the two I saw although one was swarthy he didn't look asian

Hi these guys look more asian than the two I saw. although one was olive skinned he didn't look like either of these so I'd say no-sorry

dimples Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Newwave im pm you to see if a photo I?ve got are > the same men ? Hi your photo wasn't on the PM can you try again?

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gingergossip Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So Joggers. How about you start respecting a 2m > gap? > > I always step into the road when passing someone, > to make sufficient gap. But plenty of people > coming the other way (both runners and walkers) > make no effort at all, even to shift slightly to > the inside of the pavement. It really annoys me. Same! exactly the same. Today a young couple carrying shopping walking side by side down lordship lane me on my own did they walk single file to make a 2m gap between us? did they hell!! they carried on strolling like they were on a deserted country lane oblivious to the fact that I needed to flatten myself against a fence to get even 1m between us idiots! by the way they saw me do the flatten myself against fence and dont breathe manovere and just gave me 'a look' morons muppets idiots selfish fools! BTW-cant you tell I'm annoyed by this?

What I dont get is why can't joggers walk to the park and then jog? My boyfriend jogs and thats what he's been doing. Frankly I dont get why joggers have to jog down the pavement huffing and puffing in our faces-I'm 60 and need my daily walk but its become quite stressful because of the inconsiderate few who choose to jog down the pavement (twice today I was the one who stepped into the road in order to maintain the 2m distance) and also those who cycle down the pavement. its strange how oblivious some people can be to how serious this is-keep your bloody distance from strangers when you are outside your own home whether inside a shop on the pavement or on the street-someones life could depend on it.

Nigello Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Now is not the time for middle-class English > nimby=pimbyism. Just tell people - politely - to > help everyone by staying apart 6 feet, etc. Lives > and livelihoods - perhaps those of the > recalcitrant shop owner and his/her family - > depend on it. There was too much of "I'll do what > I want and sod everyone else" in Britain before > this sad and dangerous situation; I hope this will > change for the better. Unfortunately when one does point out people are too close they can become really defensive and rude-a woman shopping in a small shop I was in asked me to move out the way so she could get to a shelf she needed to get to while I was in line for the till (this was in Dulwich village ) in order to move clear of the shelves I would have had to be about 2ft behind the person in front of me at the till-I pointed out I was keeping the recommended distance and she got a bit huffy with me about it "its only for 2 seconds!!!" I ignored her and stayed put but of course she was then stood waiting about a foot away from me...this shop allowed 3 customers in at a time and we were THE three. she, me the guy at the till paying. though I am happy to point out to people that they are too damn close for comfort I also feel that people need to become more specially aware and hang back a moment The government has been promoting the Stay at home message-I think they need to also really push the importance of social distancing INSIDE as well as OUTSIDE I find more often than not in the past week its inside shops that this caution gets thrown to the wind and surely one is at an even bigger risk in a small enclosed space than in a park or pavement.

This morning I saw two men carrying backpacks walking down lordship lane ahead of me they looked like they may be rough sleepers and spoke in an eastern European language they kept slowing down and looking into the doorways of shops that were open (SMBS) and looked into a donation bag left outside StChristopers charity shop. I got a bad vibe from them that they were looking to steal-something about their general attitude the loitering and cockiness and the way they kept crossing back and forth across the road to look into open shops They spoke to the couple from Monicas shop when they were outside fixing an awning then they crossed over and went into the tobacconists on the opposite corner. I'm pretty streetwise having lived in New York in the bad old days and Notting hill before gentrification and I would definitely keep an eye out for them as I got the impression they were 'looking for opportunities' shall we say. I kept them in my sights but kept my distance-they were in their 40's and one was olive skinned and had on a red tartan jacket I think-were't speaking english to each other it was quite a guttural language hence me thinking it was east european

Thank you this is really valuable to know. As I for one am finding it extremely difficult dealing with anxiety at the current time

I received an email from UBER saying they were offering free transport to NHS workers and they seem to have put quite strict criteria in place for drivers and passengers in case you were nervous of being in a car journey with a stranger

Today I went to do my grocery shop and wanting to support the smaller independent traders as well as being mindful to eat as fresh food as possible in this time I went to the shops on Lordship Lane. and the lack of social distancing inside left me leaving empty handed and upset. Moxons; was great no more than two in the shop and a wide enough aisle for me and my fellow shopper to purchase and browse safely. William Rose; 3 allowed in the shop at any time and marked spacing in the queue outside-HOWEVER inside they'd roped off the area in front of the counters leaving a very narrow space for myself and my other shoppers to circumnavigate in-in fact any form of social distancing between customers was pretty impossible it was in fact very crowded-suggestion-perhaps they should do 1-in-1-out policy with no more than 1 shopper (2 if in same household) in at any time, granted it would mean a longer queue outside but for heavens sakes its not like most of us have to rush to be anywhere! SMBS: (I think thats correct name?) no social distancing or queue system in place outside-due to the till area being right near the door where fresh produce is displayed there was a real bottleneck created where it was impossible to buy from that display and keep a distance..I glanced beyond and shop looked crowded so I left empty handed. Suggestion-no more than 3 in shop at any time with queuing in place outside? Organic Village (again unsure name correct the one nearish Costa) Utter shambles..no queuing no limit to people inside narrow aisles with staff filling shelves people pushing past impossible to keep any decent form of distance especially as other customers in there just seemed so unaware (or careless) of any form of spacial awareness.-again I didn't even venture to back of the shop where they had what I needed because it was too cramped and full with people browsing and milling about. As I stated at the beginning of this thread I REALLY REALLY want to support our smaller shops and I use my grocery shop as part of my daily exercise (killing two birds with one stone so to speak!) But I came away feeling anxious and empty handed. Numbers do need to be limited in shops with limited space within the aisles. And also other customers please try not to 'zone out' when within these smaller shops just maintain a distance these are extraordinary times and we all need to be a little more mindful of each other. thank you.

drewd Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am taking the opportunity to take daily walks to > get fresh air and exercise. Where it?s possible to > take a detour to avoid getting too close to people > I do so. But sometimes it?s impossible to avoid > staying on the path or pavement and I am getting > frustrated by families walking two or three or > four abreast and taking up all the space and not > thinking about the fact that it would be safer for > everyone if they all went single file when they > see someone coming towards them. I have hung back > on occasion in the hope that people will get the > message. Sometimes they do, but very often they > don?t. Please can people exercising as a > household show some consideration for those of us > on our own. Yes I've noticed the same. When out walking with my husband at the weekend we made a point of going single file when people were coming towards us-on one occasion a young couple walked towards totally unaware of the space around them despite us being single file they were still much nearer than the 2m not paying attention at all-we stepped back and waited in the entrance to a front garden which then got sniggers and dirty looks from the couple when I glanced behind me when we stepped back onto the pavement they were still looking over their shoulder sniggering and rolling eyes at us. very annoying! can't people just have spacial awareness and respect. dont snigger and roll eyes at those older than you who are being rightfully cautious.

Zig-Zag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I walked alone in the park yesterday, very > studiously maintaining my distance from people, > but I was always the one having to move out of the > way, which is fine but you might think they would > want to be careful for their own sake. Two joggers > side by side came up behind me, so I was unaware > of them until one actualy knocked into my arm as > they passed. Amazed at the arrogance and > stupidity. Ditto same thing happened to me. and with cyclists brushing right past me on the pavement heading to the park. Some people are just ignorant arrogant and foolish