NewWave

Sally Eva Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Friend of mine in that position rides a tricycle > (an adult size one obvs) > check out Wheels for Wellbeing > pictures here: https://wheelsforwellbeing.org.uk/ > > > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sue Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > NewWave Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > > > > > > > Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a > > > bike > > > > and aged over 60 I dont want to try and > learn > > > on > > > > Londons roads. > > > > > > > > > Obviously they aren't happening at the > moment, > > but > > > you can get free cycling lessons. They are > one > > to > > > one, and they start off in the park (Dulwich > > or > > > Peckham Rye). I can't remember who runs them. > > > > > > I was well over 6O when I had them. > > > > > > Also, there are routes through London which > > enable > > > you to avoid the busiest main roads and > > > interchanges (not sure that's the right > word!) > > > > > > I really cannot ride a bike-not only am I > scared > > to but I have problems with my balance so > wobbling > > across london is not an option I'm afraid even > > though I wish it was Thank you for the link..sounds like a great charity. but I'm not disabled. I could ride an adult tricycle for sure but have no idea where I'd leave in in the west end whilst I was at work. I think I'm just going to have to get mask and gloves and use the tube and overground like before sadly

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NewWave Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > > > Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a > bike > > and aged over 60 I dont want to try and learn > on > > Londons roads. > > > Obviously they aren't happening at the moment, but > you can get free cycling lessons. They are one to > one, and they start off in the park (Dulwich or > Peckham Rye). I can't remember who runs them. > > I was well over 6O when I had them. > > Also, there are routes through London which enable > you to avoid the busiest main roads and > interchanges (not sure that's the right word!) I really cannot ride a bike-not only am I scared to but I have problems with my balance so wobbling across london is not an option I'm afraid even though I wish it was

gromit3:16 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > how does boris expect everyone to walk to work? > 40 minutes walk is possible, but anything over an > hour people will soon get bored of it.. > walking from Dulwich to the west end to end up > standing up all day on a shop floor is not > practical. Thats me..I have to be at work 9.30-6pm its 7.5 miles door to door which according to google will take me 2 hours 30mins (probably longer..I'm a slow walker) and aside from my hour's lunch break I stand all day. I really cannot do that 5 days a week

I heard someone in Horniman Gardens calling their kid OBI.. I'd love to be called Xanthe..it has a good ring to it.

wulfhound Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a bike > and aged over 60 I dont want to try and learn on > Londons roads..I'll have to return to work in the > west end post lockdown and the idea of overground > and tube and the canada water interchange > terrifies me. > > > Electric moped, 50cc equivalent? Don't need CBT if > you have an old driving license; if you don't have > one, it's just a day. No pollution, no C-charge or > T-charge. > > I suspect they're going to have to hurry up and > legalise the 250w class e-scooters for road use > also, which will be a lot less expensive and > likely exempt from CBT, but they'll be speed > limited to something pretty slow - 12 or 15mph. I'm scared to ride a moped as I can't ride a bike I fear a moped would be similar but faster and having got this far without ever being on a motorbike or moped I'm scared to try..at this rate I'll be walking!

gosh people are such brazen thieving saddos! hope you get it back

I've been in there several times and it seemed ok about 3 of us in the shop

Penguin68 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?m trying to coalesce some thoughts I?ve had on a > number of threads, so apologies if not all this > appears novel. > > It is clear that right now, ED traffic and traffic > patterns bear no resemblance to anything recently > measured in planning future alteration to the > area?s roads. Vehicle traffic is down across the > area, by 60-80% if government averages are to be > believed, and usage of public transport has fallen > off a cliff. > > It is very likely that it will take some time ? > perhaps up to 18 months ? before we reach a ?new > normal?. Although this might be the old normal, I > personally think this is most unlikely. I suspect > that the volume of working from home for former > office workers will stay high, and that those who > do travel into work will not be travelling all at > the same time (staggered working hours) and far > fewer will be risking public transport. This will > have the effect of reducing congestion and > concomitant pollution. . > > Although the council would, I am sure, be pleased > if we all moved to bicycles, it must be remembered > that ED and surrounds are hilly and quite far away > from the Centre (City & West End) ? and indeed > that ED residents are not all spring chickens, > leading me to guess that a reliance on private > cars (particularly as these are seen as very much > more ?Covid-19 safe? than using public transport) > ? especially amongst the elderly or otherwise > frail ? will increase; meaning that Southwark?s > war on private cars does need to be reconsidered. > > And certainly undertaking road change schemes > before a ?new normal? develops and is acknowledged > would be at best a waste of money, and at worst an > attack on residents. ?Bicycle or use public > transport? cannot now be the Council?s go-to > solution, nor is locking cars out of areas any > longer acceptable. > > But what do others think? Its a real worry..I dont drive can't ride a bike and aged over 60 I dont want to try and learn on Londons roads..I'll have to return to work in the west end post lockdown and the idea of overground and tube and the canada water interchange terrifies me. Buses aren't really a viable option as I would need to take 2 and it takes well over an hour, I think its less of a risk taking two 15 minute train rides than sitting on a number 12 where the windows dont open for 60minutes

fishbiscuits Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why don't the windows line up? good spot..they look really wonky

sweetgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have no idea about gift cards whatsoever > 🤔 > > Can somebody advise plse..... > My son was given a giftcard for his birthday last > year in May. > The card is due to expire in less than a week. > As per terms and conditions the card cannot be > used for online spending. > As we all know the shops are closed! > > It looks like we are about to lose the money > 😭 > > Any advice gratefully received 👍🏽 > > Thanks I would phone any customer helpline that they have and explain and ask best thing to do. Though to be honest I'm pretty sure that they will honour this in view of lockdown and extend the expiry date so try not to worry

Yeslovewhatcanigetu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In fairness you know nothing of my political > leanings and I?d criticise a government of any > colours, if I felt they were failing us. And > that?s what I think of this government. I?m > absolutely up for coming together in the national > interest, I just think that berating those that > want to buy an ice cream isn?t the way to do it. Well said!

Fizzy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This situation has clearly given some people > licence to stand in judgement of others from their > lofty position of the moral high ground. This is a > difficult time for everyone and people deal with > it in different ways. To denigrate 'treats' or > 'non-essentials', as they see them and, > furthermore, taint those who may seek some comfort > in them with accusations of irresponsible or > reckless behaviour and a disregard for safety is > mean-spirited and plain unjust. If a business is > allowed to stay open and the guidelines are being > observed, there is no reason in my opinion, why > people should not purchase what they are selling, > whatsoever that may be. To choose to have a few > pleasurable moments in the midst of this terrible > time is not a sin, it is actually essential for > mental health. The fact that seems to offend some > people is bewildering to me. I find these > situations bring out the best and the worst in > people. Had the Police carried through with that > ridiculous threat to search people's > trolleys/baskets, I have no doubt whatsoever that > there would be an army of people volunteering to > assist them and quite of few of them, I believe, > probably use this forum.(I am not a flouter, I > have observed the rules meticulously, but I > confess I have had a large tub of vanilla ice > cream and thoroughly enjoyed it!) Thank you for this post. I was made to feel awful after posting that I enjoyed a takeaway coffee as a 'treat' on my daily excercise buying it from a small independent retailer that that I want to support during this time. My other half is a key worker working up to 16 hour days at the moment and I spend all day alone so my 'treat' was a nice interlude which actually cheered me up because its pretty damn lonely walking on your own, and your partner coming home so tired and so stressed that he just eats and goes to bed. Like this poster i obey the rules meticulously I am not oblivious to the amount of dead and dying I keep my distance from others and wear gloves and mask when in the supermarket . but some posters made me feel so rubbish for daring to buy a coffee and mention i saw it as a 'treat' that I didn't want to go outside and when I did my shop I avoided getting my coffee for my route home because I thought people would be looking at me walking down the street with it and think badly of me. I'm over 60 years old I shouldn't care what others think but sometimes peoples judgement of the phrasing of a post which in my case was supporting small local business can be really hurtful. Maybe some people do just pop out to buy ice creams and stroll around like they're on holiday but but most people dont. and the person walking along licking an ice cream may just have finished a long shift in one of our hospitals, or been policing our streets or emptying our bins.

where can we donate food..please give a drop off address

We are allowed to leave our homes for exercise for me this means leaving my house every day for a 2-3 mile walk and getting any shopping I need at the same time (fresh veg etc) If I see somewhere serving takeout coffee I stop and get one for the walk back home. I am adhering to government guidelines I keep my distance and because I'm older and a slow walker I may be longer on my walk than the allocated hour we are supposed to spend outside. I dont stop and rest I just keep walking because that is what we are allowed out to do-excercise. Not sunbathe not meet our friends just shop for essentials and get some air at the same time. I dont feel I'm committing a crime or showing lack of adherence to the rules or not taking it seriously by buying a coffee in a small local shop that I wish to support and drinking it on my walk. Would I leave my house specifically to buy a non-essential such as an ice cream or coffee? the answer is an emphatic NO

seenbeen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ashlar Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I think having a one way system for walkers is > a > > good idea, but the Highway Code suggests the > > opposite. You are safest if you are walking > > towards oncoming traffic as you can see the > cars > > coming. That way if you want to overtake a > slower > > walker you can step into the road easier as you > > can see what?s coming. So effectively you walk > > facing the traffic with houses to your right. > > Anyone who walks in the countryside where there is > no pavement knows this. The problem we have is > that there are pushchairs, kids on scooters, bikes > and even adults on bikes, on the pavement. Then > there are more cars on the road recently, bikes on > the road and then joggers going both ways on the > pavement- so if you need to nip in the road to > avoid the aforementioned- because 9 times out of > 10 they will not shift for you - you are taking > your life in your hands....people walking hand in > hand are a problem too. yup totally agree

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I?d prefer the government hadn?t let the NHS down, > both prior to and during the pandemic. I?d also > prefer that Brexit and the mood of > anti-immigration in this country hadn?t done so > much to undermine so many who work in the NHS but > the clapping every week does at least unite people > in being thankful for what we have. Seconded

bels123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes there are suddenly significantly more cars on > the road than the first few weeks of lockdown. > Unfortunately lots are speeding dangerously, > making it difficult and dangerous for people > walking when they have to use the road to stay 2m > apart. Shame too as many families had started > cycling to do their daily exercise. Agree to above post

Yes they are NOT allowed only people from same household are allowed together in garden or house. you could have BBQ with people you live with but no one else for instance

binkylilyput Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see that (and personally I'm not part of the > finger-pointing, reporting of small businesses > crew)but alcohol can be bought in supermarkets and > general stores just like ice cream can.... and > meat and fish for that matter > > The ice cream shop is operating completely in line > with government legislation and so this thread is > very unfair > > > 100% agree!

Jonny Comfort Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Multitasking by going to loads of different shops > should be avoided- pretty obvious, no? > As an adult If you?re mental well-being is reliant > on getting an ice cream and you can?t sacrifice > your normality for just a few weeks you?ve got > bigger concerns. > The whole reason the government advice kindly > posted above limits the number of times you go out > the house and queue up, this is pointless if you > ?multi task? and stand in 4 different queues each > with different people. I combine my daily exercise with shopping for essentials, often these essentials require going to more than one shop as I dont buy all my edibles in say M&S and Sainsbury-and if on my daily walk I see a place offering takeaway coffee (as Lucas does where I often go to get bread) I get a coffee too. I know getting a takeaway coffee is a luxury (not a necessity as I have coffee at home )but y'know what...that coffee cheers me up, it makes my day it feels like a taste of normality and if seeing me coming back from my walk carrying my groceries whilst drinking a take-out coffee upsets anyone-I'm sorry but thats my treat. I wouldn't go to Costa if it was open as I dont support chains but I think buying a coffee from a local cafe I want to support and miss going to to eat is not a crime. Likewise I dont think that people going for their walk with their families on a hot day should not be allowed to buy an ice-cream because although its not essential (nor is booze) its food and its a treat.

siousxiesue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 'But the reality is that 90% of other pavement > users (walkers, runners, dog-walkers) just do not > reciprocate this in any way whatsoever... not even > moving 1ft towards the inside of the pavement. > Some even continuing to walk side-by-side.' > > I've noticed this most of all. Couples refuse to > go single file, even though I have moved to the > road, we still don't have 6 feet between us. > Completely oblivious. Yup agree re; couples not having the decency to go single file And today a stupid family were walking 4 abreast down the pavement alongside Dulwich park on the south circular-I had to leap off the pavement and leap (I use the term figuratively I'm 60 and dont really leap these days its more of a swift side-step)back quickly as a juggernaut hurtled towards me. I mean really? 4 abreast? The kids were about 8 and 13 so not tots who needed to walk next to mum and dad. and oh yeah..thanks too to the jogger who hurtling towards me down the same narrow bit of pavement saw me step off into the road when it became obvious he wasn't going to do so then turned around laughed and shouted "boo!". Oh and the couple jogging side by side who never went single file either and gave me a look when I shouted at them This situation (the pandemic) brings out the best in some people and in others ..well we see how self absorbed ignorant and and selfish they really are.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > considering probably a lot more than 54% of shops > are closed that's probably not a great statistic > to take confidence from !! Hahaha! true!

Mrs D Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have checked the sign and yes, it does indeed > state sport as an ?inappropriate activity?, in the > small prints. I think it would be worth it to have > a larger sign saying no sport for those of us who > only glance at the sign and see the use is for > exercise and don?t read the small print to say > sport is inappropriate (To me exercise = sport) > Not saying this to annoy, but it may stop others > who were happily playing football there today :) > (and it wasn?t us, promise). Over and out! Yes I was there today and saw people playing football and also people wheeling cycles across the grass. Its a wonderful welcome amenity and I wish people would get it into their skulls that playing with footballs or playing tennis on the lawn is sport.

My partner is a key worker. In order to get to and from work (he has been doing 11hour plus days during this pandemic)he brought a bike and cycles to his place of work I really dont understand why people are being anti cyclists as long as they dont cycle on the pavement and wear the appropriate safety gear. The only cyclists I dont approve of are the ones (sometimes whole families) who insist on cycling on the pavement or the ones who dont wear helmets mainly because should they come a cropper they are putting more strain on our overstretched NHS and A&E depts. To be honest I wish I was able to ride a bike because its getting pretty damn boring taking my daily exercise on foot back and forth to Dulwich park or Peckham Rye.

Its so disrepectful. We are lucky enough to be offered these privately owned open spaces and a selfish few are ruining it for those of us that really need a quiet piece of greenery to walk round. why can't people get a grip grow up and obey the damn rules.