seenbeen

Blackcurrant Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On Andrew Marr today, the Oxford university > vaccine scientist who has developed a vaccine for > testing said her previous vaccine against the MERS > coronavirus gave a much stronger and longer > lasting response than the infection itself. So if > you've had covid, you're now partially resistant > but it's still worth getting the vaccine when it > becomes available. Herd immunity unlikely to work > without the vaccine. The animal testing for the first SARS virus resulted in either the symptoms getting worse, or severe liver damage. The first SARS virus and this SARS 2 virus both act on the same cell receptors so a vaccine is going to be very difficult to develop if that is the case. Interestingly the Cambridge Virology team are saying that the DNA of the current virus is more like the DNA of a similar virus found in horseshoe bats 1,000 miles South of Wuhan..... How exactly are we being let down by our so-called glorious leaders? All I hear from the media is implied blame- this is a PANDEMIC- all countries are vying for PPE...How come Turkey did not deliver the PPE today- did they get a better offer? The Government is being led by the scientists. The problem with this WHOLE scenario is that when the outbreak happened in Wuhan, China STILL allowed flights out of the area.....WHY?

Tipsyleprachauns Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In response to SeenBeen - Please don?t talk > rubbish about something which you obviously know > nothing about. > > The virus is related in so far as it?s a > coronavirus. It is NOT a mutation of the 2002 SARS > virus and it is not worse, though it is more > infectious. Don?t try to pretend to be ?in the > know? just to stoke up fear. > > Source: WHO > > ? No. The virus that causes COVID-19 and the one > that caused the outbreak of Severe Acute > Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) in 2003 are related to > each other genetically, but the diseases they > cause are quite different. > > SARS was more deadly but much less infectious than > COVID-19. There have been no outbreaks of SARS > anywhere in the world since 2003? FYI https://www.statnews.com/2020/01/24/dna-sleuths-read-coronavirus-genome-tracing-origins-and-mutations/ https://www.contagionlive.com/news/can-we-beat-sarscov2-lessons-from-other-coronaviruses https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/01/200131114755.htm And you think we should not be afraid- the world has been thoroughly let down by the WHO for allowing the wet markets- the source of both SARS viruses to exist at all. And if you're so 'in the know' then explain it 'properly' .... In fact the last reference there has another piece of worrying information

Kwik fit near goose green was open on Wednesday...so I guess they are not banned from opening for the very reasons you mention- phone around local ones or mobile car mechanics

Robert Jenrick also implored Local Councils that have had extra funds not to be slow in disseminating the money- which seems to imply that some councils ARE being slow at disseminating the money....

Artclub Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I keep reading scientists saying that they don't > know if you are immune after having Covid19. > Now, I'm just wondering, if you don't have some > immunity after it, how will a vaccine work? > Hopefully someone with proper knowledge can > explain it to me. > I've had it and it was brutal. Every year the Department of Health monitors the 'flu strains going around the world and then prepares a vaccine for the new ones to be given to us in September. (Cold viruses and 'flu viruses mutate and you only have immunity to the ones you have already had or have had a vaccine.) The current Covid 19 which is a SARS virus has had its DNA mapped and appears to be the SARS from 2002 but with 5 mutations which have made it a lot worse and more contagious I wish I didn't know anything about this stuff- it makes me very angry and sad but at least I know exactly why we have to follow the scientific guidelines- although I was appalled to see the crowds on the tube trains at the start of the lockdown

hellosailor Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If people have been sunbathing, gathering in > groups, cycling, littering, playing football and > letting their dogs crap on the fields then I can > only imagine that they?ve had to think better of > their offer to open the fields to the public. This > pandemic seems to have sorted people neatly into 2 > broad categories, ars*holes and non ars*holes. Yes we were saying that....

Went over yesterday at lunchtime (have been going every day as its my nearest open space) and there were a group of men playing footie and another group playing footie. There were people in the tennis courts continuously. No dogs, and no cyclists. A horrible increase in Litter (for crying out loud!) Went over there today and it is locked, no reason given on their website. When I go over there I walk around the perimeter a couple of times - take a breather on a bench and then go home... There are gardens backing onto the field and they have gates and I've seen residents coming on to the field from the houses backing on. I can only assume that the inappropriate use has been reported or that the caretaker has not opened up for whatever reason. Anyway- will try again tomorrow....

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > RIP Norman. My favourite moment: > > Brilliant match as well. Warning men behaving > badly. But fond memories > > That Leeds side were excellent. I was at West Ham when Paul Reaney broke his leg right in front of us- we heard the crack!

dbboy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Norman Hunter - Fotballer Bites yer legs....

jimlad48 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And please don't ride on the pavements or go > through red lights on pedestrian crossings - I > know its scary at times, but please remember those > of us on foot too! 2 days in a row now I have encountered grown adults on bikes on the pavements.....there is hardly any traffic on the road so there is no excuse

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > James, it is not possible to socially distance > whilst sticking to the pavements. They are not > wide enough. Traffic is down, but speeds are up. > Will the council follow the example of many towns > and cities around the world and create temporary > extensions to pavements, bring in additional road > closures and ?pop up? bike lanes to make sure > people can get around by bike and foot whilst > maintaining social distancing and staying safe > from motor vehicles? > > Also, we have just received a note to say the > Southwark will be digging up our street and the > pavement will be closed for several weeks. Again, > with average speeds up, could we either see such > work suspended during this period or better still, > temporary residential road closures. Pop-up bike lanes are a bad idea - if you are on the pavement and have to get in the road out of the way of other pedestrians or joggers you will be in the path of at least one bike....let them keep to the middle of the road please. Also I would echo the sentiments of pinkladybird re the domestic builders. The ones that are working next door to me all shook hands when they were parting for the Easter Break...and I have already posted photos of them on the forum sitting together.

There was one jogger on the Alleyn's Track today...I'm sure those tracks are designed to have less impact on your knees, back, ankles etc than the pavement.

Bic Basher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Today the queue for the Post Office was going > towards M&S this afternoon. > > M&S hardly had a queue at all. Are you sure the M and S queue wasn't going down Chesterfield grove...that's where it was going yesterday?

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > seenbeen Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > alice Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Noted that BBC figures show a 54% reduction > in > > > shoplifting. > How do they know how much is being stolen? > Unless > they are just assuming and extrapolating...I > reckon the shops that are open are experiencing > more than they usually do because a lot of > shoplifters are kleptomaniacs > > Every item in store is recorded.. every item Sold > is recorded.. > Stock taking shows what's left and what is missing > is assumed as Stolen. > > Apart from that Shop Lifting is Blatant.. these > people don't even try and hide it. > They just walk out with goods. They do not worry > about CCTV. > > If approached they get aggressive.. Staff are > Powerless. > > This is NOT due to Coronavirus, It has been going > on for years. > > DulwichFox Not quite true about everything being recorded etc. to the nth degree. There is a convenience store in East Dulwich and very often things are bought and stamped on the side is the fact that the item is from a multi pack and should not be sold separately

alice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Noted that BBC figures show a 54% reduction in > shoplifting. How do they know how much is being stolen? Unless they are just assuming and extrapolating...I reckon the shops that are open are experiencing more than they usually do because a lot of shoplifters are kleptomaniacs

I passed the Post Office yesterday and today. The queue is out the door and down the street and there is also a queue there for Barclays, a bus stop and people walking along the road. There was no social distancing because of the number of people- the whole area is a disaster waiting to happen

PETA are on the case..... https://www.peta.org.uk/features/indonesian-thai-wet-markets/ There was one pic of a man removing the shell of a turtle while it was still alive....

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The information on what to do is crystal clear, > yes. > > I disagree that it is clear as to exactly why, for > example that somebody can transmit the virus to > many others whilst showing no symptoms whatsoever > themselves. > > And also the exponential nature of the > transmission, and how that changes if one person > initially transmits the virus to two, or to ten, > and so on and so on. > > It certainly wasn't clear on the government > information I got with the letter from Boris. > > If people don't understand the reasons why they > are being asked to do things, they are less likely > to do them, I would have thought. Yes I suppose that accounts for the number of people who use a public toilet and don't wash their hands.... I don't believe there are many out there including teens, who don't know what's going on especially since Primark is shut etc

I emphasised READ as opposed to just GLANCE and walk on.....

I've got a painting by numbers of Sunflowers by Van Gogh around somewhere......

Mrs D Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi > > My family has been playing football on the field, > using our own portable goal for 9 year olds > (Hopefully no one would have assumed we used any > of JAGSs full sized goals) Is it against the > regulations of the JAGS field to play football? > > We keep to one corner away from the entrance and > my children know to keep the distance to others. > Our bikes would have been by the side of the goal > as we biked to the field from our house. I am not > sure if previous posts have been directed at my > family, but whenever we have been to this field, > there has been plenty of space for others to > exercise too and we have had no complaints. > Hopefully seenbeen is referring to someone else as > I feel we are a responsible family. If you READ the notice on the gate it says no sports no dogs and other things

Where is all the excess waste coming from? We are a family of four adults and we are at home almost all the time anyway for various reasons. We have never had a problem with excess waste over and above 1 blue bin, 1 green bin, 1 brown bin and a small food waste bin. I must say though I have been an almost obsessive recycler, refuser and re-user since the 1980s....

We've all seen the aerosol pix of people sneezing and how far it travels, and from what I've witnessed none of the coughing,panting, spluttering runners or cyclists put their hands over their mouths. And there are many mentions of instances where social distancing is not adhered to especially by teenagers and builders. People need to be aware of what is going on around them even if they themselves practice social distancing and all the hygiene because it only takes 1 second for a selfish/ignorant/unwary person to invade your space.

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not quite true. The Chinese did make the sale of > some wild animals illegal after the first SARS > outbreak, but clearly that did not go far enough. > It is enforcement that is the issue, even with the > complete ban on the farming, sale and consumption > of wild animals that China is now seeking to > impose. This article highlights the challenge > articulately. > > https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/05/asia/china-coro > navirus-wildlife-consumption-ban-intl-hnk/index.ht > ml > > Also worth pointing out that this is not only an > issue in China, but parts of Asia generally. And > even in the West, we have our own challenges > around intensive animal farming. Swine and avian > flu pandemics for example, can emerge anywhere as > we all farm these animals intensively. So I would > argue that we all need to think about our whole > approach to animal consumption over the longer > term. Making something illegal does NOT stop it. This was 6 days ago https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-08/wuhan-is-returning-to-life-so-are-its-disputed-wet-markets They have put a sign up!!!!

Peckhampam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sue > I have to disagree. What you can do and why has > been repeated ad infinitum on all > telecommunications channels. But some people just > don't think it applies to them. Yes Peckhampam is right. Every time I see a group of teens TOGETHER- they are the same age and obviously come from different households. They are putting themselves and their own families at risk. Their parents probably lost control of them some time ago and they will do just as they please. The public information is CRYSTAL clear....but as I read on a blog or post from a father- '24/7 parenting is impossible.'