Tony.London Suburbs

Xena: You are needed as calm and order needs to be restored post hocte proc... btw: Thanks for allowing me to discover my hinner selve...::o

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Xena: Worried prince Wrote: .. using the excuse of schizophrenia and blaming your > other personalities .... I've half a mind to be upset about that remark but then we thought better about it, so its cool.

Xena: Worried prince Wrote: TLS - that was truly awful and I think I need to ask you "Why did you just do that?" Agreed Xena but sometimes I know not what I do, or indeed why I do it, you know what I mean?

Sounds like a good idea Quidsy...

Mikecg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > NONONO! Not you TLS, I don't know what the why? > is. Thought so Mike! I did think it strange that anyone could be surprised at my liking of Hank Marvin. after all you can go into a paddock and not ride the horses, yougetmme Bruv....

Mikecg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ? Cliff Richard is a Shadow of his former self..and I like a Man who wears glasses, it makes him look intelligent:)

I was always taught to take it on the chin, pick myself up, dust myself down, and come back stronger than before. Criticism is much more character building than praise. Some can take the bouquets but can't handle the brickbats. Glass Jaw Syndrome....

I would jump over Cliff Richard to get to Hank Marvin any time...

Just be careful when you refer to Public Holidays...

If you are in a mellow, reflective mood "Because" by The Beatles, off The Abbey Road Album is perfect.

dulwichwood Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi to all > > I was just walking along Colwell Road this evening > and I noticed a man looking in to a letterbox of > one of the houses. He was crouched on the floor on > his knees ........ He was a white, middle-aged man. This is quite spooky as I can assure you that I am NOT the Guy in question!:X Its just that I, as a white, middle-aged man seem to spend an inordinate amount of time crouched on the floor on my knees as well..... usually begging to my girlfriend. Admittedly this is normally done behind closed doors...;-)

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > there are many "fantasia on Greensleeves"... :p Tru Say Mi Sistren. Ma Bad...;-)

KalamityKel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tony.London Suburbs Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Its all right again! > > > > I've just played "Fantasia on Grensleeves" by > > Vaughan Williams and feel Mellow Yellow > agaon;-) > > > > As you were, Peace and Love(tu) > > Surely that should read Vaughan Williams' > "Fantasia on Greensleeves" no? Er, yeah ok,,,tls fades into the distance looking totally confused..:-S

Its all right again! I've just played "Fantasia on Grensleeves" by Vaughan Williams and feel Mellow Yellow agaon;-) As you were, Peace and Love(tu)

woofmarkthedog Wrote: TLS Can we still carry this through to Monday the 2nd March .............or does the cynical ol' world ram us up the > ar5e with it's horns again today.... No we jolly well can NOT!(6)...since writing this I've been force-fed an unhealthy musical diet of Buju Banton, Shabba Ranks et al and now I'm in the mood for a ruck after all that.. Who wants some:X "Peace and Love"?? I'm not bleedin' Ringo Rudy Starr..(td)

*Bob* Wrote: Why? People on here are still discussing 'as fact' a fictitious incident on a bus that doesn't exist. At least break it to us gently "Bob" :'(..you mean it was all a ruse about the shopping trolley on the Double-Decker 436 with that nice Conducter?...and I said, like Roger Daltrey, that I won't get fooled again....

taper Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tony has been quiet for a while on the subject of > race, but he is unhealthily obsessed with it. > When he first came on the site, having implored us > all to all to move to Welling with its "British > feel", he got into hot water with posters linking > crime and race. Then he and I had a spat about > race and athletic prowess (and dancing I think). > And now he's suggesting there's a link between > race and attitudes towards homosexuality, praying > (as he often does) "Blacknet" in aid of his case. taper: For the record, I know facts are not going to change your view but I have made 1,655 posts on here and "relatively" few have mentioned Race. That will NOT stop you believing that I am "unhealthily obsessed" but I will say one thing. For 30 years(possibly a shade less) I have mixed freely with The Black Community, through choice. I have socialised with so many Black Ladies (in particular) ....I have lived with 6 Members of that Community, including a Jamaican Lady at the moment). My work has meant mixing freely with Members of that Community, most work days for 20 years. I am someone who will, even in 2009, talk to complete strangers on Public Transport and the responses from The Black Community have, overall, been the most engaging. Most are "down-to=earth" just like "moi";-) so it DOES irritate me when others fail to note "the bleedin' obvious" for fear of causing offence, and for other reasons. As to your post above, I am not going into the merits and comparisons regarding Athletic Prowess or Dancing abilities again but its safe to say that most Black people I know think Whites are inferior at short distance running, "in general" and that if a Dance Competition was held with a large enough Group of people that THEIR money would be on The Black Dancers having more style and rhythm, "as a group" with individual exceptions, either way. I think I can safely say that they, "ingeneral", believe that, and..........I DO TOO !;-) > This is a common theme for Tony. And no matter how many times you try to explain to him that this has nothing to do with with race and that, while his views might be innocently held, they are offensive, he will not be told. No-one is seeking to offend but to not note certain differences in beliefs and culture over a long period of time in different communities living in the same area either shows: 1/ An "ostrich" Mentality or 2/ An "ostrich" Mentality.

Brendan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I don?t know so much Tony (Although I wouldn?t > claim to be an expert). It may seem that way in > London surrounded by cosmopolitan uber liberals > but if you head out into the Home Counties you > certainly start to encounter higher levels of > homophobia. True, undoubtedly.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TLS you still can make no assumptions about > individuals in any particular racial group apart > from the fact that a different group of people you > asked answered in a particular way to a particular > question at a particular time in a particular > environment. > > That's claiming that 'because your mates are > homophobic and share your skin colour, you must be > homophobic'. Not at all but if, hypothetically, a large enough percentage of people within any UK Race hold, roughly, the same viewpint then there's a real likelihoodthen the next Guy will to, but you won't "know" until you find out by asking, if you meet them. > > Even the respondents may change their mind over > time.> > The point is about drawing inferences about an > individual based on your experiences of people of > a similar racial background.> > If the first Inuit you see mugs you for your > mobile, you can't imprison the next on the grounds > that you've got a 100% criminal rate in the sum of > your experiences so far. I have made a consistent point of referring to large samples (like "100,000") obviously one thing, in isolation, means nothing at all. However if 95,000 Members of The Inuit Community mugged me out of 100,000 Members that I meet then its safe to assume that I will be holding my belongings a little tighter the next time I bump into an Inuit (asyoudo:))) > > On race and culture you're already in hot water: > sharing racial characteristics doesn't mean you > share culture. It is ridiculous to claim that > Ainsley Harriot, Barack Obama and Thomas Lubanga > share culture regarding homophobia, family values > or religion. I was referring to The UK Afro-Caribbean Community only and their general views on Homosexuality. > > It's not racist to note cultural differences, but it is racist to extrapolate from the individual to the general. I understand your point. > > In your example above you use one extremist > website that supports your prejudices to cast > aspersions on the entire afro-carribean community. > You argue that because you've found it here, it > applies to everyone of similar racial descent. > That's racism. Its NOT an "extreme" Website, thats the whole point! If it was then I would ignore their views. They would be as irrelevant as Stormfrnt or a Far-Right Site. That Site is no more "extreme" than this one. Its a UK Based Site for Black people and their Members are Worldwide, but mainly based in The UK and are from all walks of life. Huguenot, I gave a lengthy reply to all your points above but they have got lost in Cyberspace, and, for once, I did not "cut 'n paste" them "just in case"...so I have only given a brief version of what I originally said.

SeanMacGabhann Wrote: i am merely countering Tony Burbs argument that only the black community have such attitudes - Now Sean I DO expect better from you M8! (excuse my irritation but I have just "lost" a lengthy reply to every one of Huguenot's points to me!)........anyway and sorry to do this but, its CAPITAL LETTERS time as my point seems to be missed here Guys.... I said that A HIGHER RATIO OR PROPORTION of The UK Afro-Caribbean Community are Homophobic. I have REPEATEDLY made the samecomment on here. That does NOT mean that "every" Member oreven the "majority" of Members of that Community are Homophobic. It does NOT mean Homophobia is exclusive to that Community, other Communities might also have a proportion of Homophobic individuals to some extent. It DOES mean., that a higher ratio or proportion of The UK Afro-Caribbean Community are Homophobic, in my opinion than other UK Communities.

Also Huguenot is it Racist to note blatantly obvious cultural differences between races? I realise we are in different time zones so I was staying up to debate this for a while but as you are not currently around I'm off to bed so laters..