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LOL indeed John. There is a run on exercise equipment now :D

Can I just correct one point above Admin,because it is important. Penguin, all mortality rates for infectious illness are calculated from known cases, and those namely presenting for treatment. The 0.1 percent mortality rate for flu is calculated in exactly the same way. COVID is at least 30 times more deadly that that. The mortality rate at present is showing as anywhere between 3 and 7 per cent. When compared to recovered cases only, it is getting up to 9 per cent. Not out of line with SARS CoV 1 that had a mortality rate of 10 per cent. It is really important to not downplay the figures because of the number of unknown cases. That is not how mortality rates are calculated.

Marmattee, you need to get used to the idea that life is not going to carry as before for a while. The message is clear.

The alcohol thing is surely just a reflection of the pubs being closed? On the news that gyms are to close I thought, I will use the park gym. Then there came the news that the parks are closing, and, I have just bought a cross trainer online :D - See how it goes?

The reality is that not enough people are taking this seriously enough, and government and local authorities have no other option than to force compliance. There is no other way to beat a virus for which we have neither effective treatment nor vaccine. On mental health. This is going to be a real challenge on so many levels for many people. There are still lots of things people can do without congregating in groups for fresh air and exercise. And the internet is going also to be a lifeline for lots of people. We have to help each other to find ways to get through it.

Cafes are supposed to be closed, except for takeaway food.

supersammyc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Heading to Heathrow with a friend who is heading > back to Peru with her little girl and we need to > find some protection. haven't had any luck finding > faces masks so far. If anyone has any in Dulwich? > Cheers I have some basic ones that are better then nothing and can give you four, so they can change them when they get off the flight or wear two at the same time. If you see this in time, message me xxx

Loulou Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hello > If you can do one thing today > Listen to this link, Switch on and Stay in. This > is REAL! > > > LL This is what I have been trying to tell people for the last month! They have no idea what is coming. And it is those people who ignore the message, that require governments to take the draconian measures. Thank you for the link. We can all share it widely. And we can all understand the risk our front line workers are taking to keep us safe. Some of them will have children. All of them have people who love them. Some of them are going to pay the ultimate price. It's a sobering thought.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps we need a virtual pub! > > We could all sit at home with our drink of choice > and make inconsequential chit chat over Zoom or > something (not quite sure how that works, is it > like Skype but like a conference call??) > > Cheers! Zoom is great for this and is totally free to use. We have already been arranging virtual pub nights with our friends this way. Having a supply of whatever your favourite tipple is, is necessary though ;) It is a great way to face to face converse and musicians are also using it to do free online gigs.

Mahoody Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sure, there has been lots of gouging with > isopropyl but you can still get 5 Litres of 99.9% > pure for ?6.66. Having got some, I've been > offering free top ups to friends and neighbours if > they bring along their small bottle. That is what I was also doing. Making sanitizer to give to at risk groups. Just my way of using my chemistry knowledge to help in a crisis. Was just a bit shocked to see the inflation on something I have been ordering for years (as a lab cleaning material).

He is completely irresponsible and why Sky News are giving him airtime to share those views is baffling. He seems to think his booze sales are more important than lives, claiming 'there has been very little transmission of the virus in pub'. How on earth does he know? It is that kind of ignorance that will increase the death toll.

Yes the nappies supply is a bit like the toilet paper supply. Other things like formula milk too. So that is an area of real concern. On things like veg, bread and milk, the market stalls in rye lane are still well stocked with plenty of cheap veg and fruit. Asda in Rye Lane also had a restock of bread and milk this morning too, and had new potatoes at 65p a bag. They seem to restock those things. I can get quite a bit in my cycle panniers. If you private message me, then maybe I can help by going tm early morning and getting a bit of a good shop for you all. Even if you only have ?20 to spend, I can get quite a lot for that in Rye Lane and I can spare a bag of pasta from my own cupboard too as a donation. Message me.

Hi all, as we all know, shopping for food and other essentials is increasingly becoming a challenge. Those who are most able, better resourced, are managing, but there are some who are really struggling to get hold of basic food. It's not just about lack of supply,for some people is is also lack of ability to afford higher cost brands. With foodbanks closing their doors, I fear this is going to get worse. Hopefully the supermarkets will get their supplies back to normal levels and the panic buying will stop but until then, I thought it might be useful to create a place where those GENUINELY struggling can ask for help. In turn, those of us who are able to shop for someone, cook something to share, or donate and share food and essentials, can try to help where we can. Obviously, everyone needs to observe the already given advice around not transmitting the virus, but let's see if this can work as another way to ease the struggle that some are going to go through.

Ok, I will start a forum foodbank thread. It will just give another way for those who are genuinely struggling to find enough basic food to ask for help.

Also, we are heavily reliant on food imports. I am sure those imports are shrinking due to the pressures in other countries. And given that foodbanks are now shutting down too, there needs to be some honesty around how those who rely on them will now be helped. Hmm which gives me an idea. Maybe we can set up a forum foodbank thread, where those who are genuinely struggling to get any item of basic food, can ask for what they need, on the off chance someone can get something for them or has something they can share. Could that work?

Thank you for confirming what we all suspect, that the empty shelves are not being fully restocked overnight. The supermarkets have had two weeks now to understand this trend and amend their ordering. So what is the issue? Boris keeps saying there is plenty of everything. So where is it? And why is it not getting to the supermarkets?

In order to get the virus from something like a card, you not only have to touch the card with your hand, you then have to touch your face, nose, mouth. The risk is low, not impossible, but low. The advice to wash hands is good advice. Get into the habit of not touching your face. If you need to wipe your nose, use a clean tissue and dispose of it immediately, then wash your hands etc etc. The way most people will catch the virus is through airborne particles and intimate or prolonged contact with an infected person. Hence why social distancing is the most effective way to stay safe.

I have been finding the small express stores are doing better at getting stock out each morning. The government have also removed restrictions on night time lorry deliveries too, so hopefully more stock will now get to those big supermarkets (providing there are the lorry drivers to do it).

Malumbu, some threads are offering advice, others are a general discussion around COVID issues. On people and pubs. I think there are many people who won't see what is coming until it is before their eyes. In other words, when people they know start getting ill and the numbers of deaths shoot up. Today I heard quite a few people laughing and joking about the situation, and panic buying etc. One person even said to me the whole thing is a hoax! This is the kind of ignorance that leads to governments having to use draconian emergency powers.

I think it is natural to expect prices to go up as demand goes up, but the wholesaler increasing prices one is wearing a bit thin now. A bottle of gin, with it's 40% alcohol content is likely to be a more effective killer of the virus than most hand sanitizers anyway. I made my own using lab grade Isopropyl Alcohol. That used to be ?7 for a liter bottle online. Now it has shot up to ?49 - so it is everywhere.

The place to still get fresh veg easily are the market stalls on Rye Lane. Lots of fruit and veg there all day.

Just a heads up for those living in Nunhead that there is an extensive support group to help get through the coming months. Anyone self isolating can ask for help and volunteers are welcome too. Details here. https://www.nunheadknocks.com/

Good to see technology being used to enforce the rationing. But yesterday in Asda, I saw no-one enforcing the limits on items. I think for many shop workers, abuse from customers is just too much for them to cope with. Shopping has just become a hugely stressful thing for everyone.

Thank you Admin. We are all in it together on this one.

Agreed DF. Other shoppers were offering to help her in her distress. She was not seeking to hoard anything. She just wanted her normal catfood weekly shop. Her other items btw were one carton of milk. One pack of celery and one bunch of spring onions. Everyone else could see she was just trying to feed her cats, but not the supermarket manager. What a situation!