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There's no truth whatsoever in the first assertion re high density housing. As for why the old building could not be utilised for a modern community hospital - see Frisco's contribution above: Frisco said: Here's the architect's refurbishment feasibility report: http://www.dulwichcommunityhospital.nhs.uk/document_view.php?DID=00000000000000000193

Ahem. I think that's what I said in the post above yours dave. I just said it with more words.

That's incorrect. A rare steak will reach a high enough temperature on the outside to kill any pathogenic bacteria. If you have contaminated meat that is minced or ground you can end up with those bacteria inside the meat. Leave the burger to stand for a while and mmm lovely. From McGee on Food & Cooking (a great book btw): "...meats inevitably harbor bacteria, and it takes temperatures of 70 degrees Celsius or higher to guarantee the rapid destruction of the bacteria that can cause human disease - temperatures at which meat is well-done and has lost much of its moisture. So is eating juicy, pink-red meat risky? Not if the cut is an intact piece of healthy muscle tissue, a steak or chop, and its surface has been thoroughly cooked: bacteria are on the meat surfaces, not inside. Ground meats are riskier because the contaminated meat surface is broken into small fragments and spread throughout the mass." McGee recommends blanching meat (30-60 secs) in boiling water to kill any bacteria on the surface. Remove, pat dry and "grind in a scrupulously clean meat grinder. The blanching kills surface bacteria while overcooking only the first 1-2mm, which grinding then disperses invisibly throughout the rest of the meat". The alternative is to prepare raw meat dishes (tartare, carpaccio etc) only at the last minute and with cuts where the surface has been carefully trimmed. ....which might explain why centrally prepared burgers are cooked in the way they are.

You're right of course, but people on this forum are likely to find emailing a helpful option.

Surely you cut out the call centre if you email them direct? [email protected]

These look interesting. We tried to get Southwark interested in them several years ago when I lived on Melbourne Grove and we were campaigning against it being used as a rat run/racetrack. They said at the time, not unreasonably, that they had not been tested extensively enough. Basically, if you speed they remain firm like permanent humps and you suffer. If you stick to the speed limit they deflate and the road is effectively rendered flat. Never seen them actually working though and problems with an ambulance trying to speed for good reason would probably still apply. Edit: ooh actually this says that "ambulances and fire engines will be able to cross the device with little discomfort, irrespective of their speed". Doesn't say anything about the discomfort of the person strapped to the stretcher inside them though. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/sick032.gif

re light pollution - there ought to be a law against it. And lo and behold there is: The Clean Neighbourhoods and Environment Act 2005 http://www.defra.gov.uk/environment/localenv/legislation/cnea/statnuisance.pdf

re PC George Hammond - this extract from Hansard from 5 February 1996 is relevant and appropriate. Ms Tessa Jowell (Dulwich): Will the Home Secretary join me in paying tribute to PC George Hammond, who died recently? PC Hammond was seriously injured 11 years ago in circumstances similar to those that the right hon. and learned Gentleman has described. Despite his incapacity - the officer suffered from kidney failure and other injuries arising directly from the attack - he fought for the retention of the kidney unit at Dulwich hospital. After his retirement from the police, PC Hammond continued to show the spirit that he had shown in devoting himself so selflessly and courageously to serving the residents of Dulwich. Mr. Howard: I am very glad to join the hon. Lady in that tribute. That was a particularly sad case, and she is right to raise it. http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199596/cmhansrd/vo960205/debtext/60205-10.htm#60205-10_spnew1

It was replaced by a new shop with flats above (Streamline Court) and some housing around the back (Streamline Mews). The first of these properties was sold in December 2001 which gives a clue as to the date of the demise of what I guess was Streamline Motorcycles (rather that Steamline).

What I still do not understand is how the recommendation from Southwark's officers namely: "The use of the premises for combined A1/A3 use would result in the partial loss of retail floorspace. Although the site is located within a protected shopping frontage, the proposal which involves a combination of both A1 and A3 uses would not undermine the shopping objectives of the area as it would not result in a reduction of retail uses below 50% of the shopping frontage in compliance with Policy 1.10 of the Southwark UDP 2007. Furthermore the proposed use compliments the retail function of the parade with no adverse effects on the vitality or viability of the shopping frontage." http://www.southwark.gov.uk/Uploads/FILE_25666.pdf (dated 01/03/07) Was turned on its head when the decision was taken: "The proposal has resulted in the loss of a Class A1 retail shop within a protected shopping frontage, and a reduction of Class A1 retail uses below the 50% split between retail and non-retail uses, leading to the compromise of the retail vitality and viability of the area and consequently a loss of amenity to local residents. As such, the development is contrary to Policy 1.7 Development within Town and Local Centres, Policy 1.9 Change of Use within Protected Shopping Frontages and Policy 3.2 Protection of Amenity of the Emerging Southwark Plan (Jan 2007) and Policy S.1.2 Secondary Shopping Frontages and Policy E.3.1 Protection of Amenity of the Adopted Southwark Unitary Development Plan (1995)." http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPSESSION=%7B%5B%2A%211B3B37163D3D352B2218373C7977747C7E626370681C081E01121F00791C2E213B766000142F262B3C7660001429240D203D3617212F32621A3D3B34312B152F3D3437310D0A7C7C7F6A677C717E647C0B6265737C7D%21%2A%5D%7D (dated 07/03/07)

In the Southwark part of Herne Hill there is a CPZ that operates between noon and 2pm only. There is also free parking in front of the shops on the northern side of Half Moon Lane and at the end of Stradella Road for up to an hour to allow people to stop and pop into local shops. This has completely eliminated commuter parking. The signs are small and in keeping with what is a conservation area. It all seems to work rather well.

They have as many people serving at Moen's in Clapham and Lidgates in Holland Park and you can use plastic at those rather well regarded establishments - same goes for Farmer Sharp at Borough Market etc etc

Spoke to Rodney Franklin this evening at Franklin's (funnily enough) and suggested, re the tyre shop, that: His reply: "You're having a laugh aren't you?" Which, in true tabloid journalist style, can obviously be interpreted as "yes, definitely it will be open by Christmas." Or maybe not.

Oh yes, those military dictators really stand up for the 'little' man/woman. Pinochet, Mussolini, Franco, Hitler. A joy to be a citizen under those regimes of course. Purlease! Our democracy ain't perfect but it could be a whole lot worse.

'They' were also involved in this development on the other side of the Rye: 159-161 Peckham Rye

Oh and 'they' are: Applicant: Ivan A. Bateman (who appears to live relatively locally (SE24 9): Credit Gate) Agent: Ms Rachel McNicholas St. Aidans Developments Ltd 7 Maltings Place 169 Tower Bridge Road London Details here: Southwark Planning

Amelie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have to say I find these planning applications a > little odd from time to time, there was an > application to turn 2 Lordship Lane into a dental > surgery but according to the Land Registry the > applicants were not the owners of the site. I > could not understand how someone who didn't own > the property was permitted to make a planning > application to change its use. If the owner of > Dulwich Garden Centre is not interested in selling > who has made the application and by what right? My understanding is that anyone can make an application on any property or site at any time. You don't need to be the owner. Quite why anyone would want to submit an application under such circumstances is a matter for speculation and gossip. The reality must be that when an application has been made it is for a good reason (from the applicants point of view at least).

Both the Local Government Ombudsman and the Audit Commission are more of a check on Councils rather than Councillors. The notable exception was in the 80's when Councillors were being surcharged and barred from office by District Auditors (part of the Audit Commission) - usually through failing to set a rate. If you have a complaint about the conduct of a Councillor the Standards Board is the place to go. This is really in connection with propriety rather than 'performance'.

Tintagel Gardens isn't really a street - more like a path on the corner of Zenoria/Oxonian. If it is accepted as a street, Milo Gardens (a path off Milo Road) here: Google Maps would also qualify and is smaller - two 'units' instead of four in Tintagel Gardens. Of course, as discussed elsewhere, if number of properties is the criterion Cyrena Road is the smallest - no one lives there at all.

Oh yes it has (well the pantomime season is approaching fast). It's in the old Jerk Rock location, next to the closed tyre shop and diagonally across from the 'old' Mrs Robinson which is still there.

[quote name='peckhamboy' on shops near ED station: A couple of newsagents' date=' a DIY shop, the bike/running place, a great dry cleaner, fantastic cobbler.] And the (relatively) new music shop's really good too - very helpful and friendly guy who always has music in stock that my daughter has to get hold of. Much better than others I used previously (one of which - formerly in Dulwich - has now closed)

In future you might want to try this Southwark WebMaps on the Southwark website. Find the area you want to go to and then click the service you're interested in - like cycle parking. Click update and all the bike parking areas are shown. It's a bit clunky but would have been useful in this specific case I would have thought - before you found the motorbike park of course.

Ko Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did the Sea Cow open first in ED or Clapham, or > are there other earlier branches elsewhere? Star prizes to Sean and downsouth! Paul Rigby from the Sea Cow tells me (when I pointed out the argument that was raging on the EDF): He says that they are doing lots of Festival stuff now as well so not planning to open any more restaurants. Can confirm they were great at the Isle of Wight Festival last year - it can't be easy tro keep the quality consistently high cooking out of a van.

Charmingly put, but you are probably right that this issue has lost its momentum - largely due to the fact that a mutually acceptable solution has now been reached. The fact is however, that this thread has attracted (as far as I can tell from browsing) more views and postings than any other on the EDF. The only ones that come anywhere near are: New Secondary School, Attempted Abduction and Cafe Nero and they are way behind. People have been able to hear about and discuss this issue in a way that, whatever the best endeavours or intentions could ever have been of the PCT or any other organisation seeking to consult, would not have been possible by a normal letter posting exercise. This is a good thing I think. I also tend to the view that the discussion on the EDF has been more balanced and representative of the community at large than is usually the case at public meetings or at the community council.

Home tonight - about 8pm - usual friends and family expected for a Friday yabber and takeaway. My (much) better half suggests we try the BBC as the clamour may now have subsided. I am sceptical but she says: 'I'll ring up and check what they say and pick up as it is just around the corner." (She may not have said that exactly but you get the gist). They say: "Order now and you can pick up in 30 minutes". Well, the bad news is that it was nearer an hour before they had the food ready. The good news is that they were apologetic and dobbed us a bottle of (not bad) vin rouge by way of compensation and the food was excellent. Mind you (see above), on the recommendaton of other EDF members, I am now in love with Spice Republic and they have cunningly lured me into their "Loyalty Bonus Voucher" scheme. Only another ?50 spent before the 20 April 2008 and I get ?10 off! Exciting. Choices, choices - who am I to complain? ps: (and a fraction off topic) I loved Heston Blumenthal on Jonathan Woss tonight. My family ridiculed me (as is their wont anyway) for taking 11 hours to make his spag bog - until they tasted it. The guy's a freakin genius.