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Finding God towards the end of life is not uncommon as several have testified on here. To make sense of your increasingly large and confusing history as you drift to meet your maker? Tie up the loose ends. Pass responsibility to something/someone else so you can spend time in peace watching the cricket, tennis, golf or taking day trips to Eastbourne or simply so as not to have to have that particular battle with your peers over the tea and cake.

Wow, Yellowdee, way to go girl! A memorable first post. Don't quite get how you draw your conclusions from the thread, but fair play to you for your strident opinions. Prepare for the fallout. Oh, and welcome to the forum.

*I'm not showing you anything DM* *what kind of boy do you think I am* *you just kindly stay over there and be sketched* *Moos, I cannot simply take requests - I have to wait for the muse, Moos*

Why big Government? Because some apparatus is required to iron out the "natural" inequalitis that we have inherited. It's really all about the children. I might agree that when it comes to adults we could be free to compete in a necessarily regulated "free" marketplace - but only if we all get to be adults on a relatively even footing. As it is things are so skewed that the idea we have a free market is frankly laughable. We have a stratified market. The whole issue of Human Rights beloved of Europe is the philosophical basis behind the growth of Government. Thank god it is on the agenda. It is not fair that some people are born priveleged and others not.

It's the virtual garden fence or front porch...

*pours another drink* *bartend is still absent so feel justified in helping self* *starts sketching out plans for new comic novel* *wonders if DM could just remain still enough for me to sketch her* *would make a valiant hero* *vamp meets nicole fahri*

Those Beefy and Lamby ads for British Meat - 30 years out of date! That ad agency are surely swinging the lead.

*wow, its a little "fragrant" in here* *dons the customary blinkers so as not to offend own delicate sensibilities* *b-lines to bar trying not to be contaminated by bed show*

but you'll be sent to the back of the queue. Where to live, ED or the Rye?....

As you end up in fair Timbuktu

A coffee shop in ED that I have not tried yet. From the sound of this thread it is a little gem. Look forward to carving out some time to try it in the next few weeks. Coffee and croissants - bring it on.

Or we might all gey carried away. When I wandered down to Peckham Rye...

KK, Mny cngrts 4 t b/d. soz l8. ltr yoof. u < 26? ED

Decor was found wanting

The front bar of the CPT or thereabouts.

I was in there on Saturday and bought Rob Sheffield's "Love is a Mix Tape" (hope my brother isn't reading this as it's his birthday present!) I love Chener's. I trust the table - it's like a literary oracle. I love the bucket. And that sign. I live in hope they hold out with the call to modernise that sign - it's an institution already. It's a little oasis of boho in an increasingly corporate LL. Viva Chener!

At one point it was Grove Vale School - that was re-started as Goose Green School. Seems a pity they couldn't turn it round.

My dad had "Tramp Fear" - not fear of tramps, but fear of becoming destitute. It stalked him his whole life. Fortunately it does not seem to have passed onto me. Looking at your original post CWALD, I can understand the fear of depression, but why so afraid of spanking?

Then a line of charlie and a fag When George Bush came to say his goodbyes...

I need forty winks

Sean's a sharp card, Strawb's - this time he's put a pony on the fact you will be there.

Er like what are you guys on about? Like every normal callow youth I was sitting insides reading Goethe and "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" listening to the Smiths whilst my big bro flailed around going to nightclubs. To paraphrase the Waterboys; "You wondered out in the world for years While I just stayed in my room You saw the crescent I saw the whole of the moon! The whole of the moon!" ps Once or twice I followed him out to places such as Bagleys. Why couldn't the people speak?

thanks Georgia. I like a woman with a plan.

I rather think that MM's task was a bit of a vanity. Laudable, interesting, challenging maybe, but really nothing more than a distaction. As others have said doing it for a week is simple - the whole issue is the psychological impact of doing it long term. I'm sure that MM's task was made all the easier for knowing that there was a prime steak and a glass of malt and the whole trappings of a well-off lifestyle waiting at the end of the week.

I think 18th is too far away too. it should be at the beginning of the month and probably the first Friday of the month so as to stop all these shenanigans. People would have prior knowledge of the dates and could work them into their diaries in advance