Well Robert,I had "an open conversation " with said parent and although I know this was his parenting approach, it had never been vocalised. He just said "that's one of the basic differences between north and south" , and I thought no,( its just you) and then ( being a bit open minded) I thought well may be it is? I left the north 27 years ago so have no other reference point. Any way no sleep being lost, just curious. :)