I don't know anyone who posts here, as far as I'm aware, and am in no clique as far as I'm aware, but I do get annoyed by Tony's ability to make so many threads about himself. There's a neediness that manifests itself when he is disagreed with - and a consistent special pleading on his background. I know more about his life than my own, at the moment. No doubt he'll say it's not his doing, but if he wasn't spoiling for a fight on this thread then I've got comprehension issues. Marmora Man, I'm reasonably close to some of the output of the CSJ - some decent proposals but an awful lot of failed old Tory thinking in there as well. I appreciate the tactical value to the C&P Tories of having one of the apparent good guys (Stranack) on their side - but the fact that he's so different from the usual Party fodder highlights a problem, doesn't it, with the Party at large? Which opens up another discussion - should we vote for local candidates, or on a party basis?