It will be very interesting to see what Harriet Harman has in mind....await her next move with interest. We the people and the government and the world economy are all victims of sub prime, and the stupid "AAA" risk attached to the securitised assets which all banks bought into with their cash reserves. I blame the risk agencies, Moodys, Standard & Poor or whoever rated these "assets" for ALL of what has happended. Fred should keep his pension, he negotaited it and its been signed. He built up a huge banking empire and but for the incorrect ratings attributed to sub prime he might still be building this bank. Eventually he did fail in the eyes of the media and the people, but not in terms of his employment contract, if he is asked to go he is entitled to a termination package in line with his earnings. There is nothing the government can now do about that, I would be very surprised if there are any changes to his termination arrangements.