david_carnell

You can buy a bike to get to work tax free - why not a bus pass? It's really not that hard or complicated. But of course you have something better, yes? Ah.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > david_carnell Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > zeban Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > In Japan the company you work for has to pay > > for > > > your commute, it's illegal for them not to. > > > Something that would NEVER happen in the UK > but > > > bloody brilliant and hugely beneficial. > Another > > > price hike is completely unacceptable > > > > Is that true? How wonderful. > > > > I think you should at least be able to make > > travelling to work tax deductable as a > reasonable > > expense. Getting ?1k back off a ?3k season > ticket > > would be a start. > > > I thought you were a socialist? The middle-class > suburban commuters and stockbrokers from the home > counties will be doffing their top hats and > bowlers in your direction......may be even > throwing them in the air with shouts of huzzah Socialist? That's a bit tame for you. Trot or Commie Pinko if you please. Tax deductable travel would equally apply to your daily 6am bus ride to your cleaning job as it would your 1st class rail fare from deepest Surrey. I'm ok with universality in this instance.

Snap.

Inside 72 you mean?

northwoods Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > maxxi - cake and pigeons is a sport? Not a sport, but an essential element to the listening pleasure of cricket - one of the few sports that's better on radio than television. Essentially, listeners often send cake to the radio commentary team (Test Match Special or TMS for short) who then will give a "shout-out" thanking them for their kind gesture. One commentator in particular, colloquially known as Blowers, enjoys little asides and bon mots about local bird life he spots at grounds - "oh look, a pigeon at fine leg. He'll need to be careful with Pieterson at the crease" for eg. All of this is possible due to the unique nature of the game and the large gaps between "the action". Welcome to 21st century England.

He LIVES!

I now want to kill myself and all of those people on their webpage. Especially Matt. Plaid factor at warp speed 9.

edhistory Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/month > ly/graph/USMN0503 Oh for the love of god you blinkin' idiot. You really are an arse sometimes. I know how cold their winters are. It was meant to be a joke. Irony. Sarcasm. About our poor weather in summer. Whatever - it was clearly an opportunity for you to play one-upmanship. But I'm going to be Ian Carmichael to your Terry Thomas. Hard cheese.

Your self deprecation and mockery of US sports is certainly endearing you. Baseball - glorified rounders American Football - costume rugby Basketball - netball for boys Now...how about some cricket? England are currently contesting Australia for a small urn of burnt wood remains over 25 days worth of play. It can still end in a draw. Now THAT is a sport. You can support Surrey. They play up the road in, err, South London's The Oval. We even have a sort of US-friendly version of cricket played in coloured outfits, loud music upon scoring and possibly cheerleaders. Oh, and you can drink loads too. You'll feel almost at home in the bleachers. Plus a British summer (when cricket is played) is not dissimilar to a Minnesota winter!

zeban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > In Japan the company you work for has to pay for > your commute, it's illegal for them not to. > Something that would NEVER happen in the UK but > bloody brilliant and hugely beneficial. Another > price hike is completely unacceptable Is that true? How wonderful. I think you should at least be able to make travelling to work tax deductable as a reasonable expense. Getting ?1k back off a ?3k season ticket would be a start.

Perhaps - but why aren't the local residents the ones drinking in there? Places like the Montpellier and the Victoria took over old backstreet pubs and have made them work, albeit in areas where there is at least a good footfall. But when you think about the huge housing estate next to Hoopers and the lack of alternatives unless you walk up the hill to the Canning or down onto Bellenden then I'm still not sure why it was never more popular.

At least with privatised utilities I have a choice of provider. The rail network merely turns a state-owned monopoly over to a private one with poor fare controls esp if inflation is outstripping wages.

You do wonder what else a pub had to do to turn over a profit. In this instance you can't even blame a pub-tie since Jamie owned the place outright as a free house. In winter if there weren't many people in there it could feel a little cold but I don't know many pubs that don't. And at least he had the snug as a smaller space to cosy up in, unlike many of the aircraft hanger refurbs in other pubs that demolish every interior wall and divide. I think my own tastes in pubs are rather anachronistic but the drinking habits and tastes of the majority have obviously changed. Beer duty doesn't help any landlord but I'm not sure what else can be done to save the backstreet boozer.

I wasn't really trying to compare the two. Merely highlighting the (on the surface at least) illogical nature of pub conversion.

red devil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otta Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > the old thread seems to be knackered (bloody > > Carnell), so a new thread for the new season. > > Typical Leeds, don't hear a squeak from them for > years and years, then they suddenly turn up and > trash the place... That made me chuckle. I think breaking that thread is about as violent as I've ever been! You won't hear much from me for another few years I expect.

Jah Lush Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Bellenden Belle Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Jah Lush Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Bellenden Road area accepted. I'm > specifically > > > talking about Rye Lane. You wouldn't purchase > > your > > > meat from there now would you DC? > > > > Actually we regularly buy our lamb from United > > Meats, which is directly opposite Peckham > Library. > > > So, not on Rye Lane then. Near as dammit, man. Don't be a pedant. And I've used Hartes in the past too for offal.

I suggested this solution some time ago: http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?27,750789 Perhaps it's time to revisit that idea again?

I'm with Quids and Jah on this. When places like the Oglander, Hoopers and other pubs are being turned into shoe box flats it's crazy that bars are trying to cram into small former shops.

Ah, so you're only talking about ED residents? My mistake. Apologies.

John - I understand now. Thanks. As a tip for the future, to help further a debate you could just actually make a proper point rather than constantly just alluding to one. Now I see your issue. It's obviously one that would need to be addressed and the artists impression obviously wasn't very well done. I would imagine though, that any definitive plans would contain blueprints and CAD drawings that would correct this. I don't even think the picture you posted was in any way "official" - it was more of a "it could look like this" sort of thing. But then you knew that.....

Yes. These are early artists impressions, not blueprints. What's your point? You seem to be complaining about something that doesn't yet exist. You're tilting at windmills, John.

I did. You said: "Organic meats, fish, veg and home comforts in a safe environment by day in East Dulwich" Implying that a) Peckham isn't safe and b) this disparate group of people you've conveniently lumped together don't shop there. JL said: "I'll wager most of the people who have recently moved to Peckham don't shop there. They shop in East Dulwich." Both nonsense from the busy shops I see every week.

V funny. Though for me, this nails the incessant nature of tv coverage these days: Oh and this one:

You think this is worse than the current vista, John?

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jah Lush Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I'll wager most of the people who have recently > > moved to Peckham don't shop there. They shop in > > East Dulwich. > > > And it seems that a lot of the people who recently > moved to East Dulwich now socialise in Peckham. > > Organic meats, fish, veg and home comforts in a > safe environment by day in East Dulwich, edgy > vibes by night in Peckham. Don't shop in Peckham? Why? Even if you are suggesting that Rye Lane's excellent value produce doesn't appeal, Bellenden Road now has a top quality butcher; the General Store selling provisons, deli goods and fresh fruit and veg; Andersons which stocks the best bread in London; and a great Payless for run-of-the-mill bits and bobs. I rarely bother shopping in ED anymore tbh. It's your own prejudices and leaps of judgement that are in error here.