david_carnell

Yes, for such a young tree that would be helpful. Or a higher-quality image. Edit: best guess would be ash

Interesting. I guess it's neat and tidy but I think I rather like the fact that my plate scrapings make compost that is then used by the council for municipal use. Randomly, when selecting a colour for our kitchen, I took the lid of our compost bin to B&Q and they colour matched it. Voila. A lovely pale green. Are Family Room inhabitants kitchen equipment geeks? Blenders, processors, knives, pans etc. I keep wondering whether I could justify buying one of these: http://www.ukthermomix.com/

What happens then? I've always wondered. Does it "digest" the waste to such an extent it ends up in the normal waste water system or do you have to empty the gizmo once every so often?

Can you post a photo of tree and or leaves?

Delicious roasted with butter and bacon.

Is Lebedev small for a cruiserweight? You rarely see such a size mismatch outside the heavyweight division any more and I'm wondering how this one has occurred. Is it just body frame size rather than weight? Even so, Jones looks like a Holyfield sized heavyweight which is crazy if he came up from the LH division. Ye gods....he must have rinsed through some of those guys. Edit: just wiki'd him....he started off as a welterweight?!?! WTF?

WorkingMummy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Most religious people are law abiding, of course. > But it's not "a rotten element among a few fringe > members". It's a horrid, central theme running > through the scriptures religious people revere. > > And the many, evil aspects of the scriptures are > not really "open to interpretation" as El Pibe has > said. What's open to interpretation about "god" > ordering Hebrew people to commit genocide in the > land of canan (sparing only virgin females, whose > fate you can guess), or ordering the stoning of > homosexuals? It's not grey. It's clear, evil, > psychopathy. And it's dangerous. > > The priests/clerics should take the red pen to the > scriptures. Then they could say, "This is not in > the name of Islam." I would have thought most of it is open to interpretation. Otherwise, whilst on your period you wouldn't be allowed near your husband for a week. See Leviticus. But I digress... But you're right in that clerics and teachers of all religions should condemn certain scripture as unbecoming of their religion in the 21st century. And lots do. It's why we don't have stoning on Goose Green every Sunday. And Islam will move that way too. But, and this will cause untold offence, currently too much of it is pretty backward and illiberal. But we won't change that with authoritarian state action or burning mosques.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > EP where do I defend Catholicism? How do you know > what I felt about Fallujah For @#$%& sake? You > haven,t got a clue so start from stop making up > what other people think and by slur their > indifference to 1000s of innocents deaths. I am on > the record on this forum for saying I stopped > voting Blair after Iraq, which is more than other > virtuous liberals on this thread can say....can,t > we have any criticism of non western religons on > the basis of liberal guilt and fear of being > labelled a racist? Criticism, not denouncement, Mr > 'you,re on one side or the other' Carnell. In the words of Michael Winner (RIP), calm down dear. You'll give yourself an aneurysm at this rate. Blimey, so I went too far with denouncement? You merely wanted criticism? Make your mind up. Like what? What do us commie-bastards need to say to keep you happy? I think senior islamic leaders need to condemn both the actions taken by these killers and then, rather than try to claim they have nothing to do with islam, admit that there is a rotten element among a few fringe members of their religion. And talk about what actions they are going to take to address it. Then what? Seriously? You ask so many questions and attack others for their mealy-mouthed-ness (is that a word?) and yet I see no solutions or insights presented. Just cheap jibes. I'd like to debate this with you. Reasonably. Without resorting to cliches. Want to try?

Are you expecting "us" (lefty pinko types with Polly Toynbee on speed dial) to denounce all of Islam? To proclaim it as a hateful religion, devoid of good and intent on the destruction of all other faiths? Ok. Anything else whilst I'm here. Of course the caveat is that these men are no more representative of Islam than the Westboro Baptist Church or people who blow up abortion clinics are of Christianity. So can I denounce that too? You just seem to be intent on being antagonistic tonight? You think the left is tying itself in politically correct knots over this? Personally, and unlike you I can only speak for myself, I've got other stuff to worry about. To be honest, I've struggled all day to see what the fuss is about. I don't mean to sound crass, but COBRA? Wtf?! If this is terrorism it's some of the most shambolic I've seen. It's a horrid murder, no doubt, but nothing more. Most people who hack others to death with machetes often ramble on about god, the devil, hell etc.... and if you're a muslim who's this mentally ill then I guess you'd wibble on about allah.

Are you allowed to cheat on GeoGuesser? By that I mean I've found signposts telling me where I am although I have no idea where that is. Can I look it up or do I still have to guess? Cape Schanck anyone? South Africa you say? Of course, sounds about right. Nope, turns out it's south of Melbourne, Aus. Gits. 13k odd on my first bash though. Addictive. And the dirt road thing is a joke. One of mine was in the Yukon Territory. I could have been clicking all night just to see a road sign!

But I don't think it is prudishness behind the campaign - it's a woman's right not to be objectified as a sexual object whilst her "views" on matters of the day are ironically posted above her head. That would seem both an obvious and stark divide. There is a really simple way to work this out....is a nude picture essential to the reporting of a story? If yes, feel free to print it. If not, don't put them in to simply titilate your male readers. And it is only men who are targeted....

I think it is possible to have a liberal attitude to nudity whilst still thinking that Page 3 is a relic of a bygone age. It's not prudishness that stops me finding Katya, 21, from Essex and her views on fiscal policy rather unpleasant. It's recognising that the image actively mocks women. Whilst it may not be porn I don't think it has a place in the national press. But my issue with how tabloid papers cover women in general is one of constant sexualisation coupled with derogatory comments about both celebs and others in the public eye (eg politicians or commentators). The hypocrisy from the Sun and the Mail on pedophilia whilst simultaneously commenting on the physiques of teen (and sometimes pre-teen) girls is shocking.

If you want that timeless look, Plain English are unmatched for build quality....and price. ?60k?! Ouch. But they have a less well known subsidiary company called British Standard who still build units to your exact specs but you need to do some of the work, like measuring, and also painting in your chosen colour on site. Quality is very high though. Disclaimer - I don't have one. I want one. A friend works for them.

That was really interesting, Piers. Thanks. Interesting how the gla mour of the Chicago gangster translated across the channel into Walker from Dad's Army.

titch juicy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Funny how the WORLD'S press are putting double > page spreads inside their papers (not in the > sports pages) about Ferguson's history and legacy, > and fans of all other clubs (including Leeds and > Man City) are universally praising him- yet > liverpool fans, on here, on my facebook newsfeed > and on twitter are still managing to find fault. > > I can understand a little bitterness after being > dominant for so long, then having to watch their > main rivals, under the tutelage of one man, > overtake their domestic achievements in the space > of a generation- but the irrational, blinkered > resentment just makes them look childish and > pathetic. And this from a Spurs fan of over 30 > years who is happy to hold up Wenger as one the > greatest ever Premier League managers. This.

It's double what any other English club have achieved in the last 20 years. So not exactly shabby. And I say that as a (retired) Leeds fan.

It's a fine line. As I'm not quite yet at *Bob's* "Stage 1" of using the Herne Tavern (Master Carnell being too young to utilise the play equipment) I'm torn on this one. I tend to avoid the Herne at weekends due to the previously mentioned chaos that occurs in the summer months and the mediocre food. I don't mind it too much at other times if only because they serve a half decent pint of landlord. And yet, I could see it being a pretty swanky fayn dayning place if the owners wanted. The space is right, replete with wood panelling, and the garden could be beautiful if the money was spent. But I realise I'd never get to use it then anyway... rats!

Right time, right place? Maybe. But, what if he had never signed Cantona? November 1992, Alex Ferguson's office. The phone rings. "Alex, it's Martin. Listen, Leeds are on the line again. Howard Wilkinson wants to speak to you." "Did he say what about? It better not be bloody Irwin again." "No but he's very keen apparently. You're not going to sell him Denis Irwin are you?" "No chance. But put him through. There's something I've been thinking about asking him anyway... "Howard, how are you?" "Good thanks, Alex, good, yeah. Look I know I've asked you about this before but Mel Sterland's got a knock and I'd really like to get Denis Irwin in, we need a right back and you know, with respect, Irwin's right-footed and well, you keep playing him at left back. The board's willing to pay good money this time and you could make a good profit and use the cash to buy a proper left back." "Look Howard, I'm not even interested. Denis is a top lad, one of the best. He'd play anywhere for me. Ask George if he'll sell you Lee Dixon. He's always up for doing a deal and he got that kid in from Scandinavia last year, no idea why. But listen Howard, while you're on, how much would you want for Cantona?" "Cantona? Are you pulling my leg Alex? We're the league champions and he's the guy that did it for us. He's brilliant, a winner, my talisman, a French philosopher amid the stodge of Chris Whyte humping long balls up to Lee Chapman. I'm going to build my next team around him, I've got some great kids coming through. I reckon Eric could be the guy to take English football to new heights of professionalism and technical excellence. I know the Irwin thing was a bit cheeky but were you really thinking I'd sell you my best player for a million quid?" "Fair dos Howard, fair dos. I might put a bid in for Brian Deane instead." "Yeah he's a good lad Deano, I've been thinking about getting him in myself." June 1993. Ron Atkinson's Aston Villa are the inaugural Premier League champions. Arsenal have won both domestic cups. Having rallied into contention following the winter signing of Brian Deane, Ferguson's United fell backwards again towards the end of the season under the psychological pressure of 25 years without a league title and Atkinson's now legendary 'mind games' clearly got under Ferguson's skin. Ferguson refuses to resign but after lengthy consideration the United board decide to part company with him and - in a sop to unhappy senior pros in the dressing room - install Bryan Robson as player-manager. Later that summer Roy Keane signs for Blackburn after Robson tells him that he would be used mostly as a utility player to cover when "Incey is injured or when Brucey, Pally, Sparky or I have had a few too many on a Friday night". August 1995. Jack Walker-backed Blackburn are now back-to-back champions. Robson has failed to arrest United's league title drought or his own on-pitch decline but retains the residual support of the fans following a 1994 FA Cup win and has the backing of the dressing room. Ince has signed for Inter Milan. However Robson is distrustful of introducing United's talented crop of youngsters such as Paul Scholes, who he sees as too lightweight for English football and not direct enough. Ryan Giggs is regularly left out for Lee Sharpe, whom Robson prefers for his early crosses aimed at his first choice front pairing of Brian Deane and Dion Dublin rather than Giggs' preference for cutting inside, playing a pass or beating a man. David Beckham is given one start away at Wimbledon but is hauled off after attempting an audacious chipped shot from behind the half-way line. Later that month he is sent for a second loan spell at Preston. After Ferguson opines that United will "never win anything with kids" only Nicky Butt is given a regular starting spot in place of Paul Ince. Gary Neville signs for Leeds. July 1996. Britain is booming and with Sky TV money pouring in football is at the heart of a new pop culture at home and cool Britannia image abroad. The middle classes flock to the game with its all-seater stadiums and glamorous new Champions League. Wilkinson's rebuilt Leeds are again the league champions, pipping Kevin Keegan's attractive Newcastle, and - on the back of their success - are selling millions of shirts in Asia, funding a massive redevelopment of Elland Road and fuelling a financial dominance of English football. Robson's United are a less attractive prospect than Leeds' combination of Cantona and an exciting crop of kids, Keegan's Newcastle or Liverpool's emerging Spice Boys side and, with the costs of redeveloping Old Trafford prohibitive, a move to Manchester's planned 2002 Commonwealth Games stadium is mooted while Giggs joins Ince at Inter. However Robson is boosted by his participation in England's Euro '96 campaign and, his own playing days having been curtailed by a career-ending knee-high tackle at Blackburn ("take that you cunt, not bad for a utility player" - Roy Keane will later reveal to have said to him), decides to bring Paul Gascoigne back to English football and sign Paul Merson to keep him company. But with a drinking culture still prevalent in the United dressing room this proves to be the worst possible environment for them and, after a disastrous run of results in mid-season, Terry Venables is brought in alongside Robson to help stave off relegation. May 1997. Robson is relieved of his duties. Seeking to imitate Arsenal's success with an unheralded foreign manager who encourages clean living, Manchester United move quickly for Grasshopper's promising Christian Gross. Cantona shocks football and retires from double champions Leeds United to take up a post as creative director of the West Yorkshire Playhouse, the heart of an artistic and cultural revival in the city that has become the powerhouse of the northern economy. July 1998. In a bid to revive the club's flagging fortunes, new United chairman Ken Bates (the head of a consortium backed by Fred Goodwin of RBS and US investment bank Lehman Brothers) installs Peter Risdale as chief executive and Glenn Hoddle as manager and embarks on a speculative spending spree designed to catapult the club into the Champions League, leveraged against future TV income and a plan to sell off Old Trafford after moving to the Commonwealth Games site once it has been rebuilt as luxury flats to be sold in the booming sub-prime mortgages market in Salford. Hoddle appoints Eileen Drewery as his assistant with responsibility for conducting all 'medicals' of prospective new signings. Recruits include Dean Richards, Seth Johnson, Robbie Fowler and Robbie Keane, who are lured with vast long-term contract offers. Keane declares himself delighted with the deal, saying he was always a Man Utd fan as a child. May 1999. Wilkinson seals a decade of dominance over English football with a miraculous comeback in the Champions League final that completes an unprecedented treble and sends him to the Palace to arise as Sir Howard. However, while Cantona's stay in his new job proves to be short-lived (he quits before being sacked over a violent assault on a member of the audience sat in the front row), his influence on Leeds' football team lives on in the golden generation of youth team players including Jonathan Woodgate and Harry Kewell, and shrewd acquisitions such as Rio Ferdinand and - in a stunning coup - Andy Cole that he nurtured and inspired. With Keegan now England manager and his recommended successor at Newcastle Alan Shearer not faring so well - and Liverpool's Spice Boys having imploded in a blaze of bad publicity (Stan Collymore's marriage to Victoria Adams ending in a messy divorce centring on dogging claims) - Wilkinson's spell is broken only by Arsene Wenger's arrival at Arsenal and, later, Roman Abramovich's investment in Chelsea, but he retires gracefully as one of the all-time greats and finest manager England never had. Ferguson has long since become a regular pundit on the BBC, in a deal arranged by his son and agent Jason.

Foxtons - quite nice when you get to know them and only interested in what's best for you.

Can't believe there is no room for Robshaw. Shocking decision considering Croft is going. Also amazed that Hartley gets in ahead of Best. Good choice of Scottish backs but surprised Maitland gets in ahead of Visser.

You ONLY have to get to a minute though, EP...on each level at least. So far I have: Hard: 65.04 Harder: 61.29 Hardest: 14.02 Hardester: 14.34 Hardestest: 11.45 Final Level: Not yet unlocked

There is an excellent garden centre in Penge too - Alexandra Nurseries - with a nice cafe attached. Does anyone know where I can get free manure? Does the ED riding school nr Dulwich Pk give the stuff away?

Someone has already recommended Tachbrook St in Pimlico but I'd second it. As well as the "best-value-lunch-in-London-?3-falafel-wrap" there is also an excellent Turkish grill selling some fine kebabs. The mahoosive mixed wrap (lamb and chicken, sauces and heaps of salad) costs ?6 or between ?6-?12 in Louisa money.

Well, again, only to you. Those betting shops wouldn't proliferate if people weren't using them. They wouldn't make money and they'd close. Likewise, for the churches, if no parishioners attended they would cease to be. Horses for courses. Whilst I'd love to see elements of Peckham change, it has a very different demographic to East Dulwich and should continue to serve those groups.

*Bob* Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Mick Mac Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I don't do fat. > > > You've got to read between the lines though, Mick. > > > In online dating parlance, 'fat' is usually > described as 'average build' Nah. Curvy = fat Bubbly = fat Vivacious = fat Fun-loving = fat