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Didn't watch the Corbyn/Johnson debate last night but had to laugh (or else you'll cry) that the immediate poll afterwards as to who 'won' the debate was 52:48 in favour of Johnson. What is more interesting is the response to further detailed questions... Hard not to conclude that the great British public thinks it's more prime ministerial to be untrustworthy and out of touch with ordinary people...

*Faints...*

Springtime, I think a lot of people will wake up next Friday with that opening line...:) Personally, whatever happens I'm going to hit...

Week 15 fixtures... Saturday 7th December Everton v Chelsea AFC Bournemouth v Liverpool Tottenham Hotspur v Burnley Watford v Crystal Palace Manchester City v Manchester United Sunday 8th December Aston Villa v Leicester City Newcastle United v Southampton Norwich City v Sheffield United Brighton & Hove Albion v Wolverhampton Wanderers Monday 9th December West Ham United v Arsenal

Week 14 points... Week 14 table...

Perhaps. I'm all for exposing politicians of all hues for their lies, they should never become normailsed like they have. Johnson and his henchmen are fibbing on an unprecedented industrial scale yet the right wing press ignores them. This 'dossier' by old school right wing Tory journalist Peter Oborne bucks the propaganda trend... https://boris-johnson-lies.com/

It used to be a big thing getting massive audiences, but last year only around 6.5 million watched it, or 1 in 10 of the population. So the right wing press trying to paint Corbyn as somehow being disloyal and out of sync with the UK public simply isn't true... ETA: Heaven forbid had Corbyn decided to lie to Her Maj in order to unlawfully shut down parliament

The previous UKIP leader was a certain Dick Braine...

Lolz, you're lack of self-awareness is endearing. Keep tuning into Brendan...

Keep moving, nothing to see here...

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But never did I think we?d be looking at such a > blatant far right propaganda driven group of > politicians in our lifetime, not here in our own > country. It?s shocking,disturbing, and also very > very real. Aided and abetted by an increasing rabid right-wing press and news outlets like the BBC who regularly report 'Downing St sources' without any critical thought, and can't see that they're constantly being played. There also needs to be a receptive public to these obvious lies, and that has been made possible under the umbrella of Brexit. Stop Brexit and you stop the lies, the charlatans, the creep towards fascism...

A reminder that there are midweek games, starting tonight...

People are wasting their time trying to reason with racist xenophobes, political jihadis who would be willing to sacrifice their first born on the altar of Brexit. Instead I'd like to hear the thoughts of any centre/left leaning Brexit voters on here who don't want 5 years of a Johnson Gov. To me there was never any chance of there ever being a so-called Lexit, it was always going to end up with a hard right government. Are you happy to accept that if it means Brexit? Does Brexit trump everything else?...

Great story, had it been the other side I expect he would've thrown the ball back into the crowd :)...

The problem with analogies is that they are rarely relevant to the situation in question. How is going to a pub for a meal anything like voting to see who governs us for the next five years? However, if the vegetarian had to stay in the pub for 5 years, I'm guessing it wouldn't be long before they started drooling over the bacon sarnies...

Careful if you're letting it all hang out in Maspalomas and someone offers you a Yule Log...

We have a Prime Minister who won't tell the public how many children he's fathered, yet has castigated single mothers. Marina Hyde's latest column pulls no punches... Boris Johnson?s big contribution to reducing plastic consumption is not wearing condoms. Or as Gavin Williamson put it this morning: ?Boris Johnson has done more for the environment than any other politician.? Quite. We don?t need a joined-up strategy to prevent climate catastrophe with the largest and most successful trading bloc the world has ever seen, because Johnson?s going to spaff our way to the higher ground, while we serve as galley slaves on his privatised sex ark. Maybe I?m being a shade unfair. So let me say that this election marks a change of behaviour for the prime minister, who has finally started withdrawing. Unfortunately, he?s pulling out of climate debates and BBC interviews, as opposed to single mothers. Still, baby steps. And he?s certainly missed a few of those.

Hammers should go for the dream team - Moyes and BFS...

I felt the same, never considered myself much of a unionist, but I did think we were 'better together'. Friends I have in Scotland, including English settled there, all now think the same. I suspect the Tories aren't that bothered, we've seen how they were prepared to throw NI and their DUP friends under the Brexit bus, and it won't have gone unnoticed to Tory strategists that without the Scottish vote how difficult it will be in the future to ever kick the Tories out of power...

Week 14 fixtures, double bubble... Saturday 30th November Newcastle United v Manchester City Burnley v Crystal Palace Chelsea v West Ham United Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion Tottenham Hotspur v AFC Bournemouth Southampton v Watford Sunday 1st December Norwich City v Arsenal Wolverhampton Wanderers v Sheffield United Leicester City v Everton Manchester United v Aston Villa Tuesday 3rd December Crystal Palace v AFC Bournemouth Burnley v Manchester City Wednesday 4th December Chelsea v Aston Villa Leicester City v Watford Manchester United v Tottenham Hotspur Southampton v Norwich City Wolverhampton Wanderers v West Ham United Liverpool v Everton Thursday 5th December Sheffield United v Newcastle United Arsenal v Brighton & Hove Albion

Week 13 points... Week 13 table...

Sturgeon is savvy enough to know that getting rid of Trident wouldn't pass a vote through parliament due to Labour rebels and Lib Dems etc. A different matter if they win independence though...

...and they were asked to vote no to independence in order to stay in the EU

Scotland will get a 2nd indy ref at some point in the next couple of years regardless of who wins the GE. They are going to do well in the GE and then the Scottish Parliament will vote for a 2nd indy ref, which even Johnson if he wins won't be able to ignore. I'd argue that there's more chance of the Union splitting under Johnson and Brexit than Corbyn and a 2nd ref...