lenk

*applauds*

Hi, well done for getting a bike - I'd recommend going up to the river (through the Burgess Park filled-in canal route), crossing at Tower Bridge and then following the Thames Path towards Canary Wharf. Years of docking history, some bland flats, one of the best pubs in London (Prospect of Whitby) and you eventually will end up at the Isle of Dogs. Take the Greenwich foot tunnel under the river and then ride back from Greenwich. Allow a full day (depends how many beers you have in the Prospect) South of ED is a bit non-descript, unless you like Norwood. Another good one is up the hill to Crystal Palace from the top of LL, through Crystal Palace park and down to the bottom to see the weird Victorian dinosaurs, which is a bit of a shorter one with a bit of a steep hill climb. I've cycled west as far as Richmond Park, which is great for cycling round, the journey there is a bit non-descript unfortunately. At Barnes you can join the river though, and follow the Thames path back as far as Houses of Parliament and then come back through Kennington - again, allow a day.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As I said lenk no air traffic to report - but > camera on standby Excellent, I'm going to camp out on this thread until we get visual confirmation

Can someone post a photo of the police helicopter taken from their cameraphone? I have found this to be useful in previous threads.

Some say that on a still day if you crane your ear skywards you can hear the delivery lorry at the other one.

taper Wrote: ---------------------------------------------------- > (I despair of the Montpellier). The Prince Albert? Good selection of real ales, lack of LL braying City types / kids, nibbles on a Saturday, new management....* * I am not affiliated with said management ot the Prince Albert pub, the views expressed are my own etc

Sorry about all the politics stuff, yeah? http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1410000/images/_1411586_rik.jpg

If we hadn't spent the last thirty years watching the governments of just about every major industrialised nation in the world pursuing economic policies that are Thatcherite in all but name, considerably fewer of us might have spent last Christmas peering into the economic abyss in the first place. There might also have been fewer people going into politics, not out of any sense of public duty, but as a means to a non-executive directorship at an arms manufacturer, or as a sideline to their career as a property developer. People might be more inclined to think of decent levels of education, healthcare and public transport as things which make life more bearable, and which are therefore worth spending money on, rather than as simply a source of profit for whichever cowboy outfit that puts in the lowest tender. For 'trickle-down economics', read 'trickle-up morality'.

Uh oh. someone's countering with links to the Telegraph site. Sorry everyone. : ( The all-pervading mentality of craven, me-me-me self-interest and an almost spiteful disregard for one's fellow human beings, dressed up as a belief in the rights of 'the individual', is something she and all of her cheerleaders helped to legitimise. We're going to disagree fairly massively here, so I'm sorry for even mentioning it...

reetpetite Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well I've seen it all now and unless there is > another explanation the three new benches on the > Rye by the One o'clock club have gone!!!! they're now elsewhere on the Rye on the path that cuts from Barry Road to the corner of Nunhead Lane one the other side, keep your wig on.

The thing is, those who moan about 'heathen petty criminals', single mothers, gangs of feral kids, and the under-educated/uneducated (non) working classes, never seem to consider that there might be some connection between the rise of the terminally feckless and the decision by Thatcher's government to let an entire generation essentially rot on a point of ideology. All these 'heathen petty criminals'/single mothers/feral kids/thick proles who are now the focus of so much hatred are the sons and daughters of the people she put out of work; people who measured themselves by what they did for a living, who were abruptly told they had little or no further value to society (which didn't exist, remember), and who consequently, in many cases, didn't pass on any sense of social responsibility to their kids. After all, most of them had grown up seeing their parents or grandparents do little else other than get pissed and sign on, so it wasn't as if there was anything to aspire to. And now everyone's about to vote Tory again as they seem to have forgotten all about this. There's lovely.

PeckhamRose Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On the east side of the lake, sorry 'pond', there > are two benches by the proper seats, that were the > lintels / tops of the 'Girls' and 'Boys' entrances > to the old school, and they look so good being sat > on by older girls and boys! An imaginative idea to > re-use them thus. Would be amazed to see those > being carried off, but sadly would not be > surprised! They would look fantastic in my rockery, you got the GPS coordinates?

If I were the police I wouldn't give two monkeys about minor crimes. They win a few votes, for sure, but nothing like the kind of reassurance (and votes) you get for headlines like "POLICE FOIL TERRIBLE MURDER PLOT" or "DRUGS RAID NETS ?5m OF DEADLY MARIJUANA, 'STREETS SAFE AGAIN', TRUMPETS CHIEF'" Which is what it boils down to - the level of perceived treat an individual feels. Like it or not, the majority of money goes on these kind of crimes. Useless, token measures such as Bobbies on the Beat etc are there to placate people who get anxious about a few muggings. Which are near-impossible to prevent anyway.

On a completely seperate, unconnected note, I have a few plants for sale. No idea what they are. One's yellow. PM me for details / prices.

It's funny as without this post the board would have been a flurry of 'SUSPICIOUS SOIL-STEALING THIEVES SPOTTED THIS AREA GOING TO HELL IN HANDCART' posts by tomorrow evening...

> Lenk, have read 'the Trial', the situation feels > Kafkaesque to me. Perhaps, albeit on a millionth of the scale

Have you ever read 'The Trial'? This isn't especially what I would call 'Kafkaesque'

Lotty Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How horrendous! I am really sorry to hear about > your neighbour, and hope that she is ok? What on > earth is going on down Barry Road?! It used to be > such a lovely street, but now seems to be becoming > pretty terrifying to be out on late at night. > What time did this happen? Where abouts down > Barry Rd? It's not terrifying. Have you walked down there at night recently? the only sound you can hear is the sound of White Stuff chinos rustling together as people walk up and down it.

I was walking through the Sexby last night. There were some French guys in there drinking wine and taking photos of each other . Crazy times. Didn't see any missing plants, mind you that's quite a knack if you knew what plants were there to realise they were missing.

ianr Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Domitianus Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > What I think is this.....we are looking at a > > random cluster. It is absolutely inevitable > that, > > from time to time, a number of incidents will > > occur within a short period of eachother simply > > through random distribution. It does NOT mean > > there is a pattern developing. > > You believe that each of the recently reported > muggings is a random event wholly unrelated to any > of the others? :) > The truth is, you don't know. If we lived in a small Suffolk village, you would be more inclined to suggest a connection. But we live in a huge area in a huge city. I would expect there to be more than a few people up for muggings about.

TonyQuinn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Lenk, I suggest you leave this thread if you find > it boring though I was deeply fascinated with your > statistical bent. Olive started this thread > wondering about the prevalance or lack of crime in > Dulwich. A debate has ensued. Surely that is the > point. Sure, OK. It's hard to be objective on the subject for anyone who reads this forum as even the theft of a pint of milk warrants a 15-page thread. Might it be that a positive feedback loop is occurring? Everyone thinks they're being a great citizen by reporting every last minutiae of activity in the area. Conversely the casual reader of this forum believes crime to be through the roof and harrasses their local police to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, despite actual personal risk being almost the same as it was 2 years ago. Or 5 years ago. Or 10 years ago.

I usually have a knife on me - a penknife. I also carry a set of screwdrivers nearly everywhere I go - how would I be affected under stop and search? completely unworkable.

TonyQuinn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Domitianus, I am not trying to inflame anyone. > Just stating the facts that Dulwich has been > identified as a bit of a hotspot by the police. > I've lived here best part of ten years - it's the > best place in London - and I can feel that things > have taken a turn for the worse recently. What we > as a community must do as so eloquently relayed by > Eliza D is be vigilant, report things to the > police, be active citizens (that does not mean > taking matters into our own hands). And soon > enough, things will get back to normal. You say > there hasn't been an upswing.....I suggest you > call your local police station and speak to people > in the know. I have. there hasn't been an upswing. If crime happened at regular equidistant intervals it would be a bit odd wouldn't it? It doesn't, instead it follows the Poisson distribution and forms clusters. People in a given area always overestimate the amount of crime. Jesus this is boring, shall we move on?

MrBen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really do think you all need to get over the > sushi thing. > > Lighten up - this is a BAR. It's primary purpose > is to serve DRINKS. And I happen to think Boho is > a quality little operation put together with some > thought, detail and attention to the drinks by an > entrepreneurial risk taking mind doing something a > little different. In a recession. > > Why don't you try actually try visiting the place > and ordering a DRINK instead of waffling on here > about sushi. What a bunch of muppets. Indeed. The amount of apoptlectic rage there is on this board when something 'we don't like' opens is hilarious.

matthew123 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reg Smeeton Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > Really? Is that really a reflection? Well I felt > obliged to double check this and lo and behold > this thread has achieved it's viewing figures over > 5 days whilst the other 3 threads you mention have > each taken over 830 days. Big difference. Not really. I really doubt that many people are digging those threads out to have a good old reminisce. It would just follow the usual asymptote as you'd expect. http://www.iaacblog.com/renugupta/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/800px-long_tail_svg.png