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Yep, lots of "we fully appreciate, while we appreciate, we also understand and we understand", no bark and no bite, she's rolled over like a puppy. We stand no chance with someone who manages to say something that actually says nothing.

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It came from the 9bn spent on the public above inflation pay award, hence doubling it. Watch the BBC interview of Starmer and Kuenssberg, where Starmer gets absolutely decimated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4exGJQmJZE4

What the Tories achieved in 14 years, Liebour have achieved in 120 days. A huge hole, so deep with no way out except resignation and a new Govt to sweep these mindless cowboys out of office. Because no one will forget, no one will forgive. Liebour tarnished themselves, they did it to themselves, big promises followed by lie after lie, or things they have done but did not say in their manifesto they would do. Prime example being removing the winter fuel allowance, increasing employer NI contributions, doubling the national debt. They can lie as much as they like, the people won't forget and once gone, never, ever to return. Not only are they penalising their own said be supporters, they are penalising the entire country. So unless you won't to avert a financial disaster, yiu have to sign the petion to get them out NOW.

Not extreme views on this thread, just hard to swallow for some, hey Sephiroth

Sephiroth, obviously you must be having difficulty translating the meaning of the words below, These clauses remain law today, and provided the basis for important principles in English law developed in the fourteenth through to the seventeenth century, and which were exported to America and other English-speaking countries. Their phrasing, ‘to no one' and ‘no free man' gave these provisions a universal quality that is still applicable today in a way that many of the clauses relating specifically to feudal custom are not Never mind, keep on ignoring the facts The only one here burying their head in the sand seems to be you, with your total unwillingness to accept what a disaster Liebour have turned out to be after 120 days in Office, making themselves a one term Govt. Bet you think the sun shines out of his backside. Because whenever an election happens they will NEVER EVER be trusted ever again or ever get back into Govt for many, many years after the dictatorship we have been placed under. Reeves was giving a speech at the CBI earlier today, bet that went well for her, NOT.

“No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land. “To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice.” These clauses remain law today, and provided the basis for important principles in English law developed in the fourteenth through to the seventeenth century, and which were exported to America and other English-speaking countries. Their phrasing, ‘to no one' and ‘no free man' gave these provisions a universal quality that is still applicable today in a way that many of the clauses relating specifically to feudal custom are not

The Clauses of Magna Carta There are 63 clauses in Magna Carta. For the main part, the clauses do not deal with legal principles but instead relate to the regulation of feudal customs and the operation of the justice system. There are clauses on the granting of taxes, towns and trade, the extent and regulation of the royal forest, debt, the Church and the restoration of peace. Only four of the 63 clauses in Magna Carta are still valid today - 1 (part), 13, 39 and 40. Of enduring importance to people appealing to the charter over the last 800 years are the famous clauses 39 and 40: “No free man shall be seized, imprisoned, dispossessed, outlawed, exiled or ruined in any way, nor in any way proceeded against, except by the lawful judgement of his peers and the law of the land. “To no one will we sell, to no one will we deny or delay right or justice.” These clauses remain law today, and provided the basis for important principles in English law developed in the fourteenth through to the seventeenth century, and which were exported to America and other English-speaking countries. Their phrasing, ‘to no one' and ‘no free man' gave these provisions a universal quality that is still applicable today in a way that many of the clauses relating specifically to feudal custom are not.

And add to that list, the removal of Freedom of Speech by Starmer's Government, the removal of democracy and the implementation of a one Party State on the people.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

No, you won't stop me there. Sephiroth, what you don't like is people disagreeing with your blinkered view of what this Govt are doing, steering the country into economic turmoil. And as of this morning 1.9m people have so far signed the petition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YiinHLdspA No it's not far right, its the people speaking out and saying Starmer, Reeves and Rayner got it wrong. We don't want an economic crash which is where they are taking us, the last thing the people want is inflation rising along with interest rates and mortgages, and food, and energy costs, and , and, and, and, the list is endless. What people do want is this bunch of fools removed from office before they do any more damage to the country. And when Kemi takes Office, all this foolishness imposed during Starmagedon will be reversed. The people have had enough, they realise the damage being done to the country. They realise that employers are cutting back on jobs and already making people redundant They recognise the cost of living is increasing, not decreasing. They recognise that Energy prices are increasing, not decreasing as Starmer promised. They recognise that the hike in employer NI contributions hurts everyone in this country. They recognise that the Winter fuel allowance has been rescinded, leaving pensioners to freeze in their homes. They recognise that life is going to get more, not less expensive because of Reeves failed budget, they recognise that the tax on farmers land will result in farmers not supplying food and causing food shortages, WHY can't you see this. Now as for "b) more than a little bit unstable and posting random links from far right YouTube sites" - No I'm not unstable, you just don't like the truth being pointed out to you. "there have always been people like this in the country and now they have a way to express it - in no way should it deflect a government or represent majority of people". The purpose of the lounge is to enable people to express what they she happening, at the moment by an inept Govt, about to crash the country into a huge economic iceberg, taking us back probably to the economics of the 1920's. You even disagree with what is said in the House of Commons, when Liebour get harpooned and Reeves runs out of the chamber because she can't accept scrutiny and doesn't want to answer the questions, as she Fked up.

Sephiroth, what you don't like is people disagreeing with your blinkered view of what this Govt are doing, steering the country into economic turmoil. And as of this morning 1.9m people have so far signed the petition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YiinHLdspA No it's not far right, its the people speaking out and saying Starmer, Reeves and Rayner got it wrong. We don't want an economic crash which is where they are taking us, the last thing the people want is inflation rising along with interest rates and mortgages, and food, and energy costs, and , and, and, and, the list is endless. What people do want is this bunch of fools removed from office before they do any more damage to the country. And when Kemi takes Office, all this foolishness imposed during Starmagedon will be reversed. The people have had enough, they realise the damage being done to the country. They realise that employers are cutting back on jobs and already making people redundant They recognise the cost of living is increasing, not decreasing. They recognise that Energy prices are increasing, not decreasing as Starmer promised. They recognise that the hike in employer NI contributions hurts everyone in this country. They recognise that the Winter fuel allowance has been rescinded, leaving pensioners to freeze in their homes. They recognise that life is going to get more, not less expensive because of Reeves failed budget, they recognise that the tax on farmers land will result in farmers not supplying food and causing food shortages, WHY can't you see this. Now as for "b) more than a little bit unstable and posting random links from far right YouTube sites" - No I'm not unstable, you just don't like the truth being pointed out to you. "there have always been people like this in the country and now they have a way to express it - in no way should it deflect a government or represent majority of people". The purpose of the lounge is to enable people to express what they she happening, at the moment by an inept Govt, about to crash the country into a huge economic iceberg, taking us back probably to the economics of the 1920's. You even disagree with what is said in the House of Commons, when Liebour get harpooned and Reeves runs out of the chamber because she can't accept scrutiny and doesn't want to answer the questions, as she Fked up.

Young people who refuse to work to lose benefits - minister Young people who refuse to work will face having their benefits cut, the work and pensions secretary has said. Liz Kendall told the BBC the government will offer young people the opportunity to "earn or learn" under new proposals to be unveiled on Tuesday. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp35r0v7q95o

Sephiroth, meaning of. "There was one SOLDIER named Sephiroth, who was better than the rest, but when he found out about the terrible experiments that made him, he began to hate Shinra. And then, over time, he began to hate everything." "Ha, ha, ha... my sadness? What do I have to be sad about? I am the chosen one. I have been chosen to be the leader of this Planet. I have orders to take this planet back from you stupid people for the Cetra. What am I supposed to be sad about?"

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LrAcO2qcvwU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpOAQDB_RZM

No, signs of sense and scrutiny of "leaders" not knowing the impact of what they have done, so much so that every citizen in the UK will suffer financially as a result of an incompetent, incoherent, unhinged Govt that's impact is effecting every citizen in the UK. Where things were being turned around by the last lot, this lot has already compromised all that work in its first 120 days in power. You may not like it but that's the truth. We are never going to agree and actually Reeves, Rayner and Starmer need to go, like yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7PoIumMKkU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKScAuKUeas

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J2a0jL2cEbU

There is chatter that Rachel Reeves is about to resign, oh make my day.

So well put Rockets.

Thanks for the update TFL "BELLENDEN ROAD: ROUTE P13 is diverted in both directions due to roadworks. Buses are not serving stops between Bleinheim Grove and Pytchley Road. UNDERHILL ROAD: ROUTE P13 is diverted in both directions due to damaged manhole cover. Buses are not serving the Crystal Palace Road and Whateley Road stops."

Agree postage spiralled under the last Govt, but because of thieving Reeves budget to increase Employer NI contributions that is the direct cause right NOW for Royal Mail to look at increasing postal rates. You may not like the "bashing" the three stooges is getting, but they couldn't have made a worse start in the first 120 days in Office. The continual reference by Starmer to "my dad was a tool maker" - no he wasn't, it was his business and then of course that wonderous line about "in my last job as the Director of Public Prosecutions", actually who cares, he is supposed to be the Prime Minister. Stop the constant references and get on with the job. What we have here right now is inflation rising, unemployment rising, cost of living still rising, energy prices rising when they said they would reduce them. A 22bn black hole pat caused by a wage increase for the public sector that makes up about half of that. A Chancellor not qualified to as an economist, the lies just keep on coming, how many times do they get to trip themselves up? When you are in Govt, be prepared for scrutiny, that is what this is all about. The people need to rise up and throw them out of Office.

Robber Reeves strikes AGAIN. "Royal Mail threatens to hike stamp prices again in more misery for UK households" Royal Mail has warned it will have to raise prices after taking a £120m hit from Rachel Reeves’s Budget tax raid. Royal Mail warns of price rises after £120m hit from Reeves’s tax raid