Mugging Peckham Rye Park

[mitchcoker]

My partner was mugged at knife point by three lads at around 6.30 - 7pm last night on the newly paved bit (outside the main park) near the exercise area/skateboard park. He's fine if shaken.

He was cycling up the hill and each lad was hidden behind a separate tree as you go up the rye. He swerved the first two but the last lad managed to push him off his bike. One lad then held a knife to his stomach and insisted he hand over his bag/phone and phone code.

This was reported to the police and they responded very quickly.

We all walk and cycle through our lovely park at this time of the evening and I don't want to scare anyone but thought we should all just be extra vigilant and aware.

(If anyone finds a discarded green ruck sack or some keys in the park please let me know.)

Be safe. Xxx

[Tuffstuff100]

Sorry to hear that :(

[JohnL]

Sorry about this, We don't need scum like this on the Rye.

[Dulwichdarling]

Was this yesterday or the evening before- it's just I run everyday around the outside of Peckham rye at about this time

On Wednesday evening I saw 3 white guys- not young but quite bulky looking and a cyclist ( at the exact area you describe). The situation looked a little odd to me but I presumed it was fine as there was no obvious signs of trouble

Don't know if the two situations are related or not but just thought I would mention

[binkylilyput]

Oh no, I did hear something at just that time around Peckham Rye last night but I believe it was further down the Rye from where you describe.

I was cycling on the road at the bottom end of the Rye (just coming past the Rye pub and towards the East Dul Road junction to continue up the Rye). I heard a shout/ scream and then a "F*** off!" that seemed to come from either the road on the other side of the triangle or from within the park. Not sure if it was male or female but I didn't like the sound of it.

I slowed my bike and looked round but didn't see anything.

May be entirely unrelated and unhelpful.

So sorry to hear about your partner. Makes me feel very anxious.

[mitchcoker]

Good news. Thanks to eagle eyed dog walkers who took to twitter this morning the bike has been recovered. Also thanks to the park rangers at Peckham Rye. Lots and lots of great folk out there. Thank you all.xxx

[mynamehere]

This police and community response in tandem is exactly how to close the net. This is a great forum

[taper]

Solidarity to your partner mitchcoker. Pleased you got the bike back. Odd that they got rid of the bike

[KidKruger]

I think possession of the bike would lead police to culprit responsible for knifepoint robbery, so it ma have been taken to render victim less mobile.

[taper]

Yes, I suppose so. I hope the Police give this incident the priority it requires. And nail the bastards, pour encourager les autres.

[JohnL]

The mobile companies will brick the phone -but they'll sell it to somebody I suppose.

Worries me that in the same situation I might react.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Sorry to hear all that.

[The Nappy Lady]

This isn't the first time I have heard of a mugging like this in the Peckham Rye area - I know of two others very similar - knife point, forced to give up phone, unlock it and give the code / reset it to factory settings there and then.

Please be careful people, it's always been 3 lads too, so does make me think it could be one group responsible and I really hope they get caught soon.

[Beulah]

Echo the sentiments on here.

Small point but can we call it what it is? It's a robbery not a mugging.

It's a serious crime and should they get caught they'll hopefully face a long prison sentence.

[rendelharris]

Oxford dictionary:

Mugging (noun): An act of attacking and robbing someone in a public place:?he was the victim of a brutal mugging?

[adonirum]

Wrong....it's a ROBBERY as stated by Beulah

[rendelharris]

Not that it really matters, but another definition from Collins:

Mugging (noun): an act of robbery with violence, esp in the street

Mugging and robbery are synonymous.

[adonirum]

Please do give it a rest before the thread goes completely off( a very important) subject.

Mugging is a colloquialism/ vernacular term.

Robbery is a legal definition/term.

Never known anyone charged with "mugging" another.

[robbin]

I agree the precise term doesn't change the awful nature of the crime, but the crime/offence is robbery and it would be charged under Section 8(1) of the Theft Act.

Because the assailant was armed with a knife it is particularly serious and possession/use of offensive weapons charges would also follow, which would increase the sentencing on conviction.

The maximum term for robbery is life imprisonment, although obviously nothing anywhere approaching that would be the sentence. Street robbery using an offensive weapon would normally carry a significant custodial sentence.

[rendelharris]

adonirum Wrote:

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> Please do give it a rest before the thread goes

> completely off( a very important) subject.

Yes I'll follow your example...oh...

[robbin]

By significant, I mean in a range of 3-6 years imprisonment, with a starting point of 4 years (according to the 2016 Definitive Guideline from the Sentencing Council).

[uncleglen]

I thought it is now possible to locate a mobile phone if so why isn't it being done in order to get this filth and throw the book at them as a deterrent

[JohnL]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> I thought it is now possible to locate a mobile

> phone if so why isn't it being done in order to

> get this filth and throw the book at them as a

> deterrent

That's why they took the phone code - they would have

wiped it.

Service providers could find it by IMEI and block - but

do they share that location with Police ?? they definitely

block.

https://www.quora.com/How-is-it-possible-for-cops-to-trace-a-lost-mobile-using-the-IMEI-number-even-after-the-SIM-card-has-been-taken-out

[JohnL]

For Info from https://www.police.uk/crime-prevention-advice/protecting-your-mobile-phone/

You need to know more than the model and colour of your handset. Each mobile phone manufactured for use in the UK has a unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number (IMEI) hardwired into it during the manufacturing process. Knowing the IMEI will help the police and insurance companies identify your handset should it be stolen. UK network operators will also prevent a stolen phone from working across their respective networks if they know its IMEI.

You can find your handset?s IMEI by:

typing *#06# into the keypad or dialer of your handset

looking inside the battery or SIM card compartment of your handset

looking on the side of the box, or on the associated paperwork, that you received when purchasing the handset

[bil]

I'm sorry to hear about this incident. Your partner must have been so frightened. It's so wrong. I hope they get caught before they do this to anyone else.