Aircraft noise - have your say...

[*Bob*]

fazer71 Wrote:

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> Between contracts I'm at home in ED and I notice

> daytime flights are now constant and the early

> morning flights start at 4.30 am these aircraft

> fly low over London and cause misery to millions

> of people many are not aware exactly what it is

> that's causing them to have a poor nights sleep as

> other noise masks the Jet drone past 5am.

>

> I you value quality of life then banning flight

> over London from 1am to 6am is a must.

Fazer,

I've already showed you - categorically - that the number of flights before 6am passing over us is virtually no different now (either in number of flights or altitude of said flights) to what it was five years ago.

You refuse to believe the reality - even when it's dished-up to you a plate with a rose on the side.

I give up. Good luck driving yourself round the twist on this.

[edcam]

Agree Bob - it's not healthy and there are far more pressing things to worry about.

[fazer71]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> You refuse to believe the reality - even when it's dished-up to you a plate with a rose on the side.

> I give up. Good luck driving yourself round the

> twist on this.

Over Christmas at various drink ups I asked neighbours and others have noticed there's been an increase in Aircraft Noise.

It isn't just me who's noticing the increase.

It was actually someone else who said they remembered when they heard Concord and now it's like Concord every couple of minutes !!

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47098

[El Pibe]

A bunch of people agreeing on anectodal speculation isn't really proof is it, especially when said people think that the much quieter modern fleets sound like concorde.

Go to the welsh hills where the RAF train and remind yourself of the sound.

[*Bob*]

Ohh... Christmas drink-ups and asking the neighbours? Well why didn't you say so before?

If I'd have known you had access to such accurate and objective data - I've have thought twice before posting the silly old radar reports showing - you know - the 'actual' frequency and altitude of flights!

[Jeremy]

fazer, sounds like you go to all the best parties!

[*Bob*]

The big question tabled for Christmas drinks 2014:

"Are policemen getting younger these days..?"

[fazer71]

V Funny.

If you can't make a sensible comment then fly off.

Even if it "Jet noise" has been going on over us for years "afaic I realy doubt it has" I remember quiet Saturday and Sunday mornings in bed.

Also

I can't ever remember needing to turn up the volume on the tv to hear a program over the sound of aircraft flying overhead, now I find myself doing that so either I've developed super hearing or flights are louder or flights are now closer.

I believe Jets heathrow bound are flying lower and they're constant over East Dulwich.

We might as well be living in Richmond , Chiswick etc right next to Heathrow were experiencing just as much noise.

Fact is we're now bang on the flight path. And we're living with the constant noise from 1am to 12pm. it's only going to get worst ......

[edcam]

Still exaggerating I see fazer.

[lucky]

I can hear it too and it wakes me up.

[peckhamasbestos]

The noise levels were never as great as they are now. It's almost constant.

[EPB]

Do you have double-glazing?

[fabfor]

lucky Wrote:

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> I can hear it too and it wakes me up.

Me too. There must be something wrong with my something! It's all my own fault!!

[peckhamasbestos]

no double glazing, I sleep with the windows open?...

[fazer71]

Heathrow trial respite zones see link.

http://www.heathrowairport.com/static/Heathrow_Noise/Downloads/PDF/Early_morning_noise_respite_trial.pdf

Please sign this .. Gov petition http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47098

[*Bob*]

What are your thoughts on the trial, Fazer?

[Michael Palaeologus]

The noise has not got worse. I've lived round here since 1988 and the numbers have not increased appreciably.

Concorde was loud as a loud thing and was beautiful as it flew over. People stopped to gaze at it as it passed over.

To claim that any of the planes flying over my flat as I type is anywhere near as loud as Concorde is a fantasy.

Concorde had the same turbo-jets as the Vulcan bomber (RR Olympus) they were designed when noise was never an issue of concern. The Olympus was first run in 1950. Things have moved on a little since then noise-wise.

[Lowlander]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> The noise has not got worse. I've lived round here

> since 1988 and the numbers have not increased

> appreciably.

>

> Concorde was loud as a loud thing and was

> beautiful as it flew over. People stopped to gaze

> at it as it passed over.

>

> To claim that any of the planes flying over my

> flat as I type is anywhere near as loud as

> Concorde is a fantasy.

>

> Concorde had the same turbo-jets as the Vulcan

> bomber (RR Olympus) they were designed when noise

> was never an issue of concern. The Olympus was

> first run in 1950. Things have moved on a little

> since then noise-wise.

Concorde was unable to fly into New York initially because of noise concerns. Even when finally allowed, BA/AF had to alter the approach and speed.

[dickdotcom]

Pearson, (and others) have you considered butting out of a conversation that doesn't concern you? Not sure why you feel the need to be so rudely superior to everyone who isn't as amazing as you seem to think you are.

I am bothered about this. We have two small children who regularly wake about the same time as the planes start. After we've settled them we're then kept awake by planes flying directly over our heads every couple of minutes. My wife occasionally wears earplugs, I don't as I want to be able to hear my children when they wake up. It would be nice to be able to go back to sleep after that so I can be fully effective at my high powered job and keep the British economy ticking over ... (irony)

So I'm grateful to SplendidLike Peckham for posting this link and will follow it up. That is the point of consultations after all ...

[hpsaucey]

fazer71 Wrote:

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> Heathrow trial respite zones see link.

>

>

>

> http://www.heathrowairport.com/static/Heathrow_Noi

> se/Downloads/PDF/Early_morning_noise_respite_trial

> .pdf

>

>

> Please sign this .. Gov petition

> http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47098

Thanks for the link. Have signed and shared..

[StraferJack]

Who is Pearson? And who are others? And why doesn't it concern them? I'm curious

[MrBen]

At risk of pouring petrol on flames. In the past 6 months or so I'm genuinely (seriously!) hearing roaring sounds I didn't previously (am at southern end of SE22). I don't doubt we've always been on the flight path but something has def shifted where we are- altitude/approach combo perhaps?

[*Bob*]

It is a lion?

[El Pibe]

Fazer venting frustration whenever the tin foil hat falls off?

[MrBen]

Cant vouch for either. Just telling it as it is.

I know. I'm not helping.