Trouble in peckham?

[DinkyToy]

12 years old? 13 -14 years old?

This is the result of no fcking discipline in both the schools and the home. This is the result of adults being too scared to take a youngster to task for low level behaviour.

We now a an entire generation who are simply no longer scared of authority of any sort. The next time one of the Loony Left suggests any sort of progressive moddy-coddling - think of this night.

Lawlessness. Muggings. Fear. Fire. Homes and business owned and built over generations destroyed.

I doubt I will be sleeping tonight. I will be spending the night defending my home, my neighbours and my street.

With a fcking cricket bat. What will you do if it reaches your front door?

[jennyh]

There is a petition online to bring in the army, I got a Facebook link but sure if you google it you will find it. Might help.

[maxxi]

LL seems to be returning to normal - police still here - bus (176) just went by stopping as normal. {appendages crossed}.

[muffins78]

Would they go near residential places?

[matthew123]

The Guardian.. do me a favour.

What is needed is a crack down, and to hose this scum off the streets.

[Jeremy]

Facebook petition? Doubt that will help anyone...

[BrandNewGuy]

whibel Wrote:

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> There is a context to London's riots that can't be

> ignored

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

> 8/context-london-riots

I call bullsh*t. 14-year-olds out on the streets looting have spent all but one of those years under a Labour government. Any responsibility there?

[bee74]

I was swimming with my toddler in Peckham Pool 5-6 pm. Pool shut and let people out but not in. They let us out from back door so we would be closer to car, but car was blocked just outside on the main street because of rioters. We could not moved for ten minutes and I was terrified for my little one in the back as youth was walking past with stones, etc. Finally two policemen noticed the 5 blocked cars and managed to move bus out of the way. Got as far as the pharmacy (ABC?) at the big traffic lights when we had to veer off towards Goose Green because of the burning bus on the main road. Some kids with metal chairs smashed a car just two cars ahead of me, which had slowed down to let some pedestrains through. Finally got home going via Dogkennel Hill... Boy safe in bed now, but what the hell is going on?!

[Loz]

whibel Wrote:

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> There is a context to London's riots that can't be ignored

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/08/context-london-riots

Honestly, really and truly just f-off with the sodding hug-a-hoodie context. Just send in the damn army if there are not enough cops. The little twunts that robbed and smashed windows in LL didn't do it because of any social context - they did it because they knew the police are stretched to the limit and they can get away with it.

Take your socks and sandals somewhere else.

[Fliss]

That Guardian article.... I don't think Nina Power had quite finished it..... she didn't make a point at all.

[Adam999]

Alex K Wrote:

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In seriousness: I am afraid. I am

> appalled. I am disgusted by a police force that

> has forgotten how to use force.

>

> I have the front door on double-lock and the

> baseball bat in the hall, and I am glad not to

> live near the high street.

This is not the police's fault so why are you disgusted by them?

[Saffron]

We're going to pelt them with cat litter and nonbranded children's plastic building blocks.

[TheArtfulDogger]

Chemical Castration is a good option to clean up the gene pool (or physical castration without pain killers of any sort for the worst of them)

[kristymac1]

whibel Wrote:

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> There is a context to London's riots that can't be

> ignored

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

> 8/context-london-riots

Utter Tosh - these people have no 'cause', they looked like they were having a 'right laugh' on the news footage. Mindless violence, detsroying homes, businesses and lives - I struggle to find a justifiable context to that.......

[whibel]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> whibel Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > There is a context to London's riots that can't

> be

> > ignored

> >

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

>

> > 8/context-london-riots

>

> I call bullsh*t. 14-year-olds out on the streets

> looting have spent all but one of those years

> under a Labour government. Any responsibility

> there?

yeah. i get the picture. nice dropping in on your folks. goodbye east dulwich forum, enjoy your cupcakes.

[Pollypops]

Bee74 - really awful that that happened to you. Hope you are not so shaken now.

[whibel]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> whibel Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > There is a context to London's riots that can't

> be

> > ignored

> >

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

>

> > 8/context-london-riots

>

> I call bullsh*t. 14-year-olds out on the streets

> looting have spent all but one of those years

> under a Labour government. Any responsibility

> there?

yeah. i get the picture. nice dropping in on your folks. goodbye east dulwich forum, enjoy your cupcakes, etc.

[tom84]

Mr Godwin, please! stop talking bullcr*p! get the army in!

[StraferJack]

Hang on. Wasn't it just last year that Teresa may said she could cut police forces because British people didn't riot? Sorry, but there is wider context. Reducing it to "hug a hoodie" is risible

We can all (and do) condemn the thugs as much as we like. Teresa may spent an eternity doing it earlier tonight. But it doesn't achieve anything. These aren't people who respond to being chided

As for army and water cannons etc? Do people not have any me,ories of any other parts or the world or even uk, and how "successful" they were.

Calm heads required, not overreaction.

Watching the whole thing unfold tonight I was surprised to not see police go in harder earlier. I then heard them say "well...people give out when we get tough"

Yes.. With peaceful protests, not idiots like tonight

[Senor Chevalier]

And Saffron surely it is "lego" plural not leggos. I know there's shit going down, but it's no excuse.

[Michael Palaeologus]

There is no social context for rioting in Croydon or Clapham or ED.

Its straight criminality.

[rebwec01]

> Utter Tosh - these people have no 'cause', they

> looked like they were having a 'right laugh' on

> the news footage. Mindless violence, detsroying

> homes, businesses and lives - I struggle to find a

> justifiable context to that.......

Agreed.

[Gimme]

It is a moronic article. The riots have nothing to do with anything referred to by Nina Power. Don't get the hump just because people read something that looks like utter tripe and comment on it. From the looks of it, the rioting is nothing to do with austerity cuts and more to do with copy catting what is on TV in the context of the police being too busy to deal with it.

What sort of social protest does nicking fags from Londis and trainers from Footlocker in Brixton make...?

whibel Wrote:

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> BrandNewGuy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > whibel Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > There is a context to London's riots that

> can't

> > be

> > > ignored

> > >

> >

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

>

> >

> > > 8/context-london-riots

> >

> > I call bullsh*t. 14-year-olds out on the

> streets

> > looting have spent all but one of those years

> > under a Labour government. Any responsibility

> > there?

>

> yeah. i get the picture. nice dropping in on your

> folks. goodbye east dulwich forum, enjoy your

> cupcakes, etc.

[BrandNewGuy]

whibel Wrote:

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> BrandNewGuy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > whibel Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > There is a context to London's riots that

> can't

> > be

> > > ignored

> > >

> >

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/0

>

> >

> > > 8/context-london-riots

> >

> > I call bullsh*t. 14-year-olds out on the

> streets

> > looting have spent all but one of those years

> > under a Labour government. Any responsibility

> > there?

>

> yeah. i get the picture. nice dropping in on your

> folks. goodbye east dulwich forum, enjoy your

> cupcakes, etc.

And thanks for not answering my reasonable question. I'm not a Tory and I don't eat cupcakes.

[Alex K]

Adam999 Wrote:

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> This is not the police's fault so why are you

> disgusted by them?

in response to my comment that I am disgusted by a police force that has forgot how to use force.

Hey, Adam999. Thanks for asking.

Let me divide up the "this" in your response.

The throwing of bricks through windows and the setting afire of buses is not the police's fault. Agreed.

The failure to act swiftly, and forcefully, to END those events... Isn't that the police's fault? Point for debate.