Football Focus

[pablogrande]

'bout now Wrote:

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> Veron for 28m springs to mind

>

> And how many titles, Champions leagues? Fa cups?

>

> Just saying.

I thought I was giving a cock handed compliment, even the great slur alex can make a poor signing

[Keef]

Pablogrande, you have just spoken my mind for me.

['bout now]

:)):))

3 and then how many years after that before he failed to win a trophy?

Personally I cant stand the bloke but I think in 24 years his buying record v results has been exceptional.

[ruffers]

We talking Fergie here? Much as I'd love to concentrate on the Taibi/Verons etc, his done a decent job on the signings, just let's not forget he has spent loads over the years. Not sure about 'exceptional' mind, but acceptable.

[Mick Mac]

ruffers Wrote:

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> We talking Fergie here? Much as I'd love to

> concentrate on the Taibi/Verons etc, his done a

> decent job on the signings, just let's not forget

> he has spent loads over the years. Not sure about

> 'exceptional' mind, but acceptable.

Its irrelevant what Fergie has done on signings as he is an unqualified success - his record speaks for itself.

Its only if someone is either a failure (O'Leary) or a qualifed success (Rafa) that you need to look at his sigings and do a cost/benefit comparison.

Fergie stands apart.

[matthew123]

Forget about signings being good or bad, its what you do with the players you have available. There is no doubt that when puts his mind to it he can deliver for the big occasion... but he is a loose cannon who I think has engineered his sacking. I don't see Liverpool touching him with a barge poll until he has at least proven he can behave and focus on the team at another Club.. and I dare say try and sustain good football.

[matthew123]

BTW Shanks, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, not to mention Wenger and Mourinho, all won the Title within 2 years of being in top flight. As for Fergie he was runner-up in his first full season in England. Great managers let their greatness be read on the pitch.. whilst others have their mates in the media write it for them :)

[Sandperson]

pablogrande Wrote:

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> I am one of many who want Rafa back 'home' one

> thing I would like to see though. He got a good

> payoff from us and will get the same from Inter,

> would like him to work his first year for free and

> use what money that would have cost to add to

> transfers.

pablogrande Wrote:

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> Seems to be but who wouldn't want a manager who

> got you to be the no1 ranked team in Europe

>

> Have to say his transfers up until last year had

> many more positives than negatives, reina, Torres,

> alonso, mascherano, Garcia, sissoko, crouch, agger

> all quality in my eyes his real problem was he

> didnt have funds to go straight out and buy proven

> class was always trading up year on year eg

> Bellamy sold to fund Torres where as we should

> have held onto him. He tried to sell Alonso to

> fund Barry which never happened and it came back

> and bit his arse 12 months later.

>

> I'll be the first to admit he's bought some

> stinkers eg babel but who hasn't? Veron for 28m

> springs to mind. his man management may need

> tweaking but I can't help thinking if he didn't

> have the two cowboys trying every underhand way of

> replacing him behind his back last year would have

> been a whole lot different.

Those are two of the most hilarious posts I've seen on this thread. Thank you for heralding the Christmas period with such jollity. :))

[Emerson Crane]

As much as I can't stand Ferguson, his record IS far superior to Benitez. There, I said it. For a Gooner, not an easy thing to do.

[Emerson Crane]

Inter confirm Rafa sacking. Back to Liverpool maybe?

[Jah Lush]

Only to see his wife and kids for Christmas. Oh and by the way -

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[Emerson Crane]

Why thank you, and the same to you.

[Sandperson]

Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> As much as I can't stand Ferguson, his record IS

> far superior to Benitez. There, I said it. For a

> Gooner, not an easy thing to do.

Is this the FF thread equivalent of the Germans and Allies playing football in no-mans-land in the First World War! :)

[Emerson Crane]

Yeah why not, merry crimbo.

[Narnia]

*faints*

[Emerson Crane]

Narnia Wrote:

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> *faints*

Now now, accept the greeting in the spirit it was offered.

[Narnia]

I do, I do.........I just don't know..........*faints again*.........

[Emerson Crane]

Narnia Wrote:

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> I do, I do.........I just don't

> know..........*faints again*.........

Ok, so comedy is not your forte? (tu)

[Narnia]

Not that I've recovered, have a great Christmas, Emerson and Jah. See you in the semis of the CL with a bit of luck!

[Mick Mac]

Narnia Wrote:

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> Not that I've recovered, have a great Christmas,

> Emerson and Jah. See you in the semis of the CL

> with a bit of luck!

Did noone tell you arsenal had drawn Barcelona declan

[Narnia]

Did I not say 'with a bit of luck' Mick?

[Emerson Crane]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Narnia Wrote:

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> -----

> > Not that I've recovered, have a great

> Christmas,

> > Emerson and Jah. See you in the semis of the CL

> > with a bit of luck!

>

> Did noone tell you arsenal had drawn Barcelona

> declan

Your powers of observation are second to none. Who did Celtic get?

[Narnia]

Inverness Cally?

[Emerson Crane]

:))

[matthew123]

How times have changed. Once upon a time Boxing Day meant half the Premiership would kick off at lunchtime such was the number of southern Clubs, now it is just Craven Cottage hoisting the Flag this Xmas. Not sure how so many Clubs from the North West have PL status, but there are 5 PL fixtures in old Lancashire at 3 p.m. this Boxing Day!