Football Focus

[Emerson Crane]

Keef Wrote:

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> Or indeed probably one or 2 in every team, at one

> time or another. Nani is just taking things to new

> levels, by introducing tears ;-)

He could mean the way Ramsey and Eduardo rolled around after having their legs broken maybe.

[Sandperson]

So, I think Arsenal will be alright tonight. I've got a feeling they'll get at least a draw if not a famous victory. Could be on for the treble the way things are going.

[mockney piers]

I too think we're looking at a CL upset. I have my Arsenal cousin-in-law (is there such a thing?) coming over for this one, so best of luck frankly (plus OBVIOUSLY down with Barca sort of thing)

[Sandperson]

Would it be an upset? I know Barca are a great side but on their day any of Arsenal, Chelsea and United should be able to give them a good game.

[mockney piers]

yet noone really expected them to.

It's less of an upset after the Emirates result admittedly, which was of course...dah dah dahhhhh....an upset!!

tbh as a neutral I'm jsut hoping it's as good a game as the last one.

[Jah Lush]

As a Spurs fan I don't think I could bare it if Arsenal won at the Nou Camp tonight or indeed went through by earning a draw, unless of course we can get to beat Arsenal in the final. And before you all laugh. I can dream can't I?

[Sandperson]

It's not out of the question Jah. I was going to add Spurs to my list of possibles to defeat Barca but I didn't want to get into a whole debate about their league form, which is a a bit up and down, I'm sure you'll admit.

[Jah Lush]

Anything is possible in a two horse race. It could just be one of those nights when Barcelona have a bad day at the office. I can't see it myself though.

[murphy]

It will be tough for Arsenal but with Pique and Puyol missing from the centre of defence this gives Arsenal a much better chance. You can get 5/1 on the draw and 8/1 on an Arsenal win - the bookies are usually right but those odds look generous.

Would like to see Arsenal go through, knocking the favourites out gives all the English teams a much better chance of winning.

[Narnia]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> That's a very cheap shot Narnia.

I'm sorry you feel that way Jah.

[Keef]

But you've taken nothing back, so you are calling me xenophobic. Where the hell has that come from, do you even know what it means?

[Jah Lush]

Really? I'd be embarrassed if we had a player constantly behaving like Nani does, throwing his toys out of his pram like spoilt little brat when things don't go his way. First Ronaldo and now Nani. Aren't you embarrassed by that? And to accuse us of xenophobia is out of order.

It was a very poor challenge by Carragher and he should have been off but Nani's reaction was pathetic. I'm sure Fergie took a very dim view of it too.

[Keef]

And where did anyone say anything at all about his nationality?

Xenophobia

?noun

an unreasonable fear or hatred of foreigners or strangers or of that which is foreign or strange.

Well, to be fair, Nani's reaction was strange, but I'm not sure that makes any of us Xenophobic, and I'm damned sure that's not what you meant anyway.

Absolutely fecking stupid comment Narnia.

[Emerson Crane]

Ok enough already. We all agree the challenge was poor and deserving of a red card. Nani will be up and about in next to no time. God alone knows what would have happened if a united player ended up with a broken leg.

Keef in my experience is one the most decent fellas on here so lets not start slinging muck around that has no basis.

[Jah Lush]

Indeed. A mere flesh wound. I'm sure Nani will be playing against Arsenal on Saturday. It's a pity because the lad can play but his histrionics leave a lot to be desired.

[Narnia]

An article

Another one

I'm posting these in response to the huge amount of crap written which was focused on a foreign player who could have had his leg broken (but as he has other habits we don't like, lets forget that), and the little or nothing said about an English player who nearly caused it to happen.

Don't tell me that if Nani was English he would get the same treatment. He wouldn't in my opinion.

[Mick Mac]

Get your tin hat ready declan. Or your Guinness hat at least.

[Keef]

So based on your opinion, which you have absolutely no evidence to back up, you're labelling people as xenophobic?

Sorry Narnia, but that is absolutely fucking stupid!

EVERYONE on here, Liverpool fan or not, said Carra should have been sent off for a really bad tackle. There was not a lot else to say on the matter. Nani's reaction was a much bigger talking point, wherever he's from.

You've basically called me, and maybe others on here, racist, and that is bang out of order, and I think you should have a word with yourself!

[Narnia]

No I didn't

[Keef]

I know the difference thanks, but your implication is a bit dirtier than that.

You've read a couple of articles, which make some good points. However, from that, you decide that any football fan, saying anything negative about a foreign player (even if he has acted badly), is being xenophobic.

Perhaps your claims would hold more water, if you had said that everyone was having a go at Raphael for his challenge, but defending Carragher, as they were similar incidents (as was the case with Holloway having a go at Houllier, and not Dalglish). However, everyone was in agreement that they were both in the wrong.

The Nani thing was an altogether different incident. People said he acted poorly (which he did), and I took the piss out of the crying a bit (so what).

I'll tell you what, if there is a similar incident with an English player, and I don't take the piss, or have a go about it, then perhaps you can say I have some sort of double standards, or am indeed xenophobic.

Until then, you just come over as someone who has read an article, learnt a new word, and thrown it at the first possible incident you could, even though it doesn't work at all in that context. Well done.

[matthew123]

I'm not so sure Nani is actually the biggest cheat at Old Trafford. I think Rooney takes some beating with his theatrics none more so than the dive against Sol Campbell back in 2004 to win a penalty then just when you thought he'd show embarrassment he celebrated it!

[Mick Mac]

I have watched the first half and have decided I am watching two poor teams. Oh oh messi just scored.

[Narnia]

Thanks. You're right.

[matthew123]

'They don't know how tough we are, show them how tough we are' - imagine reaction if Big Sam had been overheard to say that to one of his teams on coming out for second half..

[Mick Mac]

Van Persie sending off. Awful decision.