Reluctant runner Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 We are surrounded by retailers with more than one outlet - Winkworths, Iceland, Moo two, Somerfield, East Dulwich Deli, The Bishop, Blue Mountain Cafe, Wates, GBK, Barclays, HSBC, Costcutter, Hope and Greenwood, William Hill, Budgens, Palmeston - I am too tired to continue but there are plenty more. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muttley Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Blue Mountain...? Hope and Greenwood?...oh yes, now I think about it there's also that international conglomerate A J Farmer, and the famous Ralon franchise. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaywe Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Reluctant, I agree that there are too many chain stores however you do exaturate a little: Just because the likes of Mootoo and ED Deli, H&G, have another store it does not mean they are not independant. EDD started in ED, hence the name, and yes have now opened at Harrods. Moo too have another store in West Dulwich. So what. As for H&G and Blue Mountain, I wasn't even aware they had other outlets. These are all locally owned and operated stores. They give something back to the community and are certainly not forcing locals operaters out of the neighbourhood. "independant" does not necessarily mean "one-store", it has more to do with the way they operate. You can hardly put them in the same basket as Iceland, Somerfield, etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I think there's now a branch of Franklins in Stockwell or Kennington or somewhere. And Sea Cow opened in Clapham shortly after ED. But I don't really class these as chains either... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 "These are all locally owned and operated stores. They give something back to the community ..."What do these shops " give " back to the community ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_birdseye Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 ED Deli has been giving free brownies to the community all week. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Grrrrrrrr.......these meddling kids @ ED Deli Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Quaywe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Reluctant, I agree that there are too many chain> stores however you do exaturate a little: Just> because the likes of Mootoo and ED Deli, H&G, have> another store it does not mean they are not> independant. EDD started in ED, hence the name,> and yes have now opened at Harrods. Moo too have> another store in West Dulwich. So what. As for> H&G and Blue Mountain, I wasn't even aware they> had other outlets. > > These are all locally owned and operated stores. > They give something back to the community and are> certainly not forcing locals operaters out of the> neighbourhood. "independant" does not necessarily> mean "one-store", it has more to do with the way> they operate. You can hardly put them in the same> basket as Iceland, Somerfield, etc.I read in the freebie saturday paper a couple of weeks ago (Southwark News or the Weekender?) that Hope & Greenwood now sell at Harvey Nichols, Waitrose and a few other places - I think they also said Selfridges and British Airways first class. Good on them for doing so well. I've seen their chocolate in Waitrose in coastal Kent and did a bit of a double take as it was far away from ED! Most interesting bit of article was that when they renovated the shop, they found out that it was once an old sweet shop as they found the old sign behind the facade. They also said that they started out by trying out recipes in their kitchen. As I can't afford BA first class, I'll just stick to Northcross Rd. Their hard work is paying off and I for one don't begrudge them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brash Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 ED went right down hill in my opinion when Nero arrived. Another starbucks will be next if people go to Nero now.Happy coffee drinking!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Coffe shops aren't really my cup of tea (you see what I did there, ho ho ho, god I'm funny) but it's a bit much to say a Nero has spelled the end of east dulwich. There's clearly a demand, it offers a decent service, the coffee's even pretty good (I'll occasionally dabble at the camden branch if I'm feeling a bit peaky in the morning, whyever that would be the case I cuoldn't say) and lastly it's british, not some horror of an evil corporation from the US. So carry on I say, better than an empty unit or yet another pub/bar, and we're pretty set for curry houses.We couuuuld do with another boutique of course ;) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaywe Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Don't be so naive to think that Nero being on LL is a good thing. Nero set a precedent that will make it easier for other shops like Starbucks to appear...and they will if we don't unite against them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 We could organise an action group, shall we say, meet at nero midday? ;)Talking of which, your presence and antipodean brand of invective were sorely missed at the meet last night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Palaeologus Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 We could protest firmly and then by a coffee, get another stamp in our loyalty cards and read the paper.That's British protest for you! We'll show them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicksg Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 As I've said elsewhere on the forum, one of the reasons you don't get more independent businesses opening up in East Dulwich is that the landlords who own the premises will only rent them to 'established' businesses. So they're doing more than any other group of people to make it easy for chain stores to open up. It's frustrating, unfair and ought to be banned, but it's the landlords prerogative. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Quaywe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Don't be so naive to think that Nero being on LL> is a good thing. Nero set a precedent that will> make it easier for other shops like Starbucks to> appear...and they will if we don't unite against> them.I wasn't that happy to see Nero open up, but to be honest it is a damn sight better than Blue Mountain (slow & rude service, exepnsive prices, very average food and drinks) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
timtim Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Really? I have always had good experiences at Blue Mountain, and its certainly not expensive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 The slow and rude service is the worst thing. Some of the incidents that me and my friends (on separate occasions) have witnessed in there are just unforgivable. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The slow and rude service is the worst thing. Some> of the incidents that me and my friends (on> separate occasions) have witnessed in there are> just unforgivable.Dittoterrible placeshut them down. drive them out. no mercy for the Blue Mountains cafe Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Quaywe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Don't be so naive to think that Nero being on LL> is a good thing. Nero set a precedent that will> make it easier for other shops like Starbucks to> appear...and they will if we don't unite against> them.NO thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 I'd like to like blue mountain, but they do make it awfully difficult. The best thing that could be said about the service is that it's charmingly .. err .. rural.Not everywhere has to worship at the god of american style service industry (have your product within 46 seconds with a fake 'have a nice day', or your money back) and I do sometimes like the more laid back approach, and am especially more forgiving when i leave london as the pace of life is often different.But having said all that BMC pushes the tolerance envelope too far even for little old me. And last time i was there it was 7 odd quid for a cooked breakfast that I'd be very hesitant to describe as value for money (though the snag (singular) was nice). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keef Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Walked in there once... Walked out again. Too many people crammed in to too small a space, and nothing that made me think this'll be a nice place for a bite to eat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 "ED went right down hill in my opinion when Nero arrived."?! Nero :-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaywe Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 BMC is a haven for ED mum's and their prams. It bores me but I like that they are there rather than a chain store. The Drum has the best coffee in ED but is too smokey. Bring on the anti-smoking laws!Mockney, are you going to the G&B tasting on Wednesday night? You (and others) might finally be able to put a face to the EDKiwi name... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulwichmum Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Blue Mountain was good at the beginning. I haven't been in there with a pram. It looks too pokey for a vehicle! Do they still do the home made chocolate eclairs on a Thursday? Where exactly is The Drum, I can't place it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaywe Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 across the rd from BMC. Near the organic vege shop and the fresh flower co. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/227-independent-shops-onaround-ll-what-a-laugh/#findComment-3966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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