pubs...... the new weekend creche?

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

I've always found that the Grolsch is kept really badly at the CPT. The two best pints of lager in East Dulwich are Inside 72's Lownbrau, and the Plough's Peroni.

[SeanMacGabhann]

I've seen the owners daughter inside 72 often enough for her to be almost drinking age now, but very rarely have I seen many others. Too small for the buggy-users and probably a bit "coarse" for many parents as well... needless to say if I do ever have kids then as well as installing a fully-stocked library, showing them around a games controller and learning how to cycle, they will be shown around the bars of ED toute suite

[KalamityKel]

Ah man all this talk of beer...I'm thirsty!

[Rolo Tomasi]

^ditto^ A few pints for me after work I think!

[Asset]

I went inside 72 several years ago with a kid and was told they didn't allow kids. So there you go people, a place to go with no kids.

[Domitianus]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Move with the times dear boy, move with the times.

> Nowadays if you want a quiet pint and read of the

> paper on a Sunday afternoon - stay at home.

So does this mean it is ok for me to go to a children's playground, sit all day drinking lager and get pissed? I mean if the kids are allowed to invade the pubs.......

[ratty]

Yep that's fine! Bet ya don't do it though!!!

[Domitianus]

Since I am teetotal I won't, no, but I am sure there are a vast number of parents who would object to that particular mix of alcohol consumption near children yet who seem quite happy to inflict their sprogs on people who might want a chance to have a bevvy in peace. Also, I bet lager swillers would be much more courteous and restrained in public parks than kids often are in pubs.

[citizenED]

Damn! I was hoping to take my little one in there soon follwing the advice that a baby was a surefire babe magnet. Foiled again.

[tinagwee]

"the po faced old wankers will scurry for their wretched middens " now thats going a bit far, generalising all those that dont have kids as po faced old wankers! As for lost money from meals, the plough as lost my lunch money many a time when I went in to eat and left very quickly.

In my defense can I say that the plough is my local and it is nice and so why shouldnt I expect to be able go to my local pub. The Castle is not nice nor is particularly local to me. I do go to the CPT (again not as comfortable) or to 72 to avoid the mayhem but they are a 25 min walk which is fine most of the time but sometimes I just want a magners close to home to chill out, or sometimes I just want a coffee somehere nice before 7pm, didnt think that was too much. Silly me.

Question: Where is Clockhouse and Hoopers and I will check them out for "christ sake" as told by someone in this thread.

I do get the general impression that round these parts it is considered nearly a crime to not have kids and as such those like me only deserve to live in and hang out in complete dumps. Excuse me for getting above my station mlord.

I moved here from Brixton and I never once saw a child in any pub there, funny that. Lots of socialogy students would probably think it would be the working class that do that rather than the up and coming or middle class. mmmm What would Jamie Oliver think of it! heheh

Looks like I will just have to do a bit of adjusting and try to avoid the plough during the day even though it is the most convenient place to me otherwise I will just get lynched by the craaaazy east dulwich parents.

[Domitianus]

tinagwee Wrote:

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> "the po faced old wankers will scurry for their

> wretched middens " now thats going a bit far,

> generalising all those that dont have kids as po

> faced old wankers! As for lost money from meals,

> the plough as lost my lunch money many a time when

> I went in to eat and left very quickly.

>

> In my defense can I say that the plough is my

> local and it is nice and so why shouldnt I expect

> to be able go to my local pub. The Castle is not

> nice nor is particularly local to me. I do go to

> the CPT (again not as comfortable) or to 72 to

> avoid the mayhem but they are a 25 min walk which

> is fine most of the time but sometimes I just want

> a magners close to home to chill out, or sometimes

> I just want a coffee somehere nice before 7pm,

> didnt think that was too much. Silly me.

>

> Question: Where is Clockhouse and Hoopers and I

> will check them out for "christ sake" as told by

> someone in this thread.

>

> I do get the general impression that round these

> parts it is considered nearly a crime to not have

> kids and as such those like me only deserve to

> live in and hang out in complete dumps. Excuse me

> for getting above my station mlord.

>

> I moved here from Brixton and I never once saw a

> child in any pub there, funny that. Lots of

> socialogy students would probably think it would

> be the working class that do that rather than the

> up and coming or middle class. mmmm What would

> Jamie Oliver think of it! heheh

> Looks like I will just have to do a bit of

> adjusting and try to avoid the plough during the

> day even though it is the most convenient place to

> me otherwise I will just get lynched by the

> craaaazy east dulwich parents.

Order a hot coffee with your Magners and if any brat comes to close just "accidentally" knock it over them. A few scald cases and the parents might get the message. No, I am not really suggesting anyone do this but if it genuinely happened accidentally I guarantee a fair percentage of people would blame you rather than their own failure to supervise their kids.

[mightyroar]

what, blame someone for knocking scalding coffee over their child?

Outrageous. What has ED come to.

[Domitianus]

mightyroar Wrote:

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> what, blame someone for knocking scalding coffee

> over their child?

>

> Outrageous. What has ED come to.

My point is that when kids are allowed to run riot in crowded environments where food and drink is served these things happen and that some holier than thou parents are happy to point the finger at any other party, no matter how innocent, rather than acknowledge that they failed to look after their children in allowing them to run all over the shop. I had a child run straight into me in the street and was blamed by his mum for not watching where I was going despite the fact that I was stationary when the impact happened. I can assure you I expressed my sentiments about the incident clearly!

[mightyroar]

what, child 'run all over the shop'

where will it end?

[SeanMacGabhann]

Dom said:

but after his postings on other threads tonight I have my doubts!

tinagwee: I'm with you girl - let's NOT have children together

[????]

Things that annoy me in pubs include -

Ugly people

Braying groups of horsey girls

People watching the 'footy' in replica shirts

Blokes drinking halves

People paying by card

Peole drinking that blue stuff in bottles

like kids, I have to put up with all these as they are all legally allowed in and i don't own any pubs to make my rules

[ratty]

A few sensible posts here, I particularly like the suggestion of scalding children with hot liquids! ???? your post hits the nail on the head. There are lots of things that annoy me in pubs. Also I would suggest that it is not the children that are the problem particulalry, but the behaviour that they are allowed to get away with. If I ever played up in a boozer when I was a lad it was a slapped arse and straight home.

[Keef]

Agreed Ratty! That's what I've tried to say on the numerous other threads about this. I don't really mind kids in pubs, especially in the day time. I do mind when parents let their kids run riot, and think if you take a kid in, you need to show responsibility for it.

[snorky]

tinagwee Wrote:

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> "the po faced old wankers will scurry for their

> wretched middens " now thats going a bit far,

> generalising all those that dont have kids as po

> faced old wankers! As for lost money from meals,

> the plough as lost my lunch money many a time when

> I went in to eat and left very quickly.

>

> In my defense can I say that the plough is my

> local and it is nice and so why shouldnt I expect

> to be able go to my local pub. The Castle is not

> nice nor is particularly local to me. I do go to

> the CPT (again not as comfortable) or to 72 to

> avoid the mayhem but they are a 25 min walk which

> is fine most of the time but sometimes I just want

> a magners close to home to chill out, or sometimes

> I just want a coffee somehere nice before 7pm,

> didnt think that was too much. Silly me.

>

> Question: Where is Clockhouse and Hoopers and I

> will check them out for "christ sake" as told by

> someone in this thread.

>

> I do get the general impression that round these

> parts it is considered nearly a crime to not have

> kids and as such those like me only deserve to

> live in and hang out in complete dumps. Excuse me

> for getting above my station mlord.

>

> I moved here from Brixton and I never once saw a

> child in any pub there, funny that. Lots of

> socialogy students would probably think it would

> be the working class that do that rather than the

> up and coming or middle class. mmmm What would

> Jamie Oliver think of it! heheh

> Looks like I will just have to do a bit of

> adjusting and try to avoid the plough during the

> day even though it is the most convenient place to

> me otherwise I will just get lynched by the

> craaaazy east dulwich parents.

I was being provocative - apologies

Now that Smerking is banned in pubs, things have changed. I dont mind kids in pubs during the day, with the caveat that they are not ruinning about - I do mind however when they are still there at 10PM when im trying to get quietly ripped to the tits on fizzy lager and you feel a bit funny about swearing and suchlike

[Cassius]

I know where the Clockhouse is - but still no-one has answered tinagwee's question of where Hoopers is. There's a department store called Hoopers in Torquay but I doubt this is the one being touted as a child free pub.

[mockney piers]

http://www.hoopersbar.co.uk/

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=SE5+8DH&ie=UTF8&ll=51.466735,-0.079093&spn=0.010828,0.03283&z=15&om=0

[SeanMacGabhann]

also a good a time as any to point to the Search function at the top right of the page - invaluable

[TillieTrotter]

I think everyone is in agreement here. Kids in daytime, behaving well, is acceptable. Kids in evening, not acceptable. Can we now put this baby to bed once and for all.

[lozzyloz]

That's because it's not in Camberwell, Peckam or East Dulwich but then again maybe it is. Hoopers address

oops mockney beat me to it!

[Dulwich_ Park_ Fairy]

In my defense can I say that the plough is my

> local and it is nice and so why shouldnt I expect

> to be able go to my local pub. The Castle is not

> nice nor is particularly local to me. I do go to

> the CPT (again not as comfortable) or to 72 to

> avoid the mayhem but they are a 25 min walk which

> is fine most of the time but sometimes I just want

> a magners close to home to chill out, or sometimes

> I just want a coffee somehere nice before 7pm,

> didnt think that was too much. Silly me.

If you live close to the Plough but it takes you 25mins to walk to the CPT then perhaps you should spend less time in the pub and more in the gym (which incidentally is kid free).