ED Mummies : You Need To Relax (Lounged)

[Ganapati]

I can see why we are becoming a despised species. Had a horrible exchange with some sharp elbowed mummy at Peckham Rye Cafe in which she asked me to take my baby out of the high chair so she could use it. When I objected (I was alone with toddler and baby) that my baby was still eating, she huffed off to harass someone else. I looked at her perplexed when she sat near us, and she said, You needn't look so horrified, mothers usually look out for one another. I'm beginning to think all the people on this board bleating about selfish ED mothers are right.

[pk]

there are selfish mothers as there selfish members of all groups, it's obviously not fair to generalise

[Scruffy Mummy]

I was in Blue Mountain cafe last week (sans toddler!) waiting for my partner. I had bought the Guardian and was half way through it - I also knew my partner (being to tight to buy his own bleedin paper) would read it as well.

Anyway, a young assertive looking young man came over to me. 'Can I have that?' he said, putting his hand assertively on my paper. 'Well, no' I said with a smile-'I'm not finished with it and my partner is coming and he'll want to read it.'

He looked pissed off and walked back to his table - muttering 'some people'

Well, I just looked at him in complete astomishment!!!

Personally, I blame a private school education myself - teaches folk they somehow deserve more than the rest of us!

[benjaminty]

Oh my good god!!!! you blame private schooling??????????????? Did he still have his Dulwich college prefects blazer on?

[*Bob*]

WELL you'll never believe what happened to ME!!

I was in a shop the other day and a bald man trod on my foot. It didn't seem important enough to make an issue of it at the time, but I got a bit irritated (mostly with myself) on the bus home and felt hard done-by.., so i thought that if I posted a detailed complaint right here there then would be a chance that said bald man might read it and feel suitably admonished.

Ooh.. I forgot my cover story: "Bald men - you need to relax"

[rob]

I know loads - and I mean loads - of ED / DV mummies and they are, almost without exception - completely lovely people. Maybe I'm just lucky.

[Azul]

Scruffy Mummy Wrote:

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> I was in Blue Mountain cafe last week (sans

> toddler!) waiting for my partner. I had bought

> the Guardian and was half way through it - I also

> knew my partner (being to tight to buy his own

> bleedin paper) would read it as well.

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Can I comment on that as a bloke ?

it's not that we are tight to buy the paper, it's just that getting a bit of something that doesn't belong to us gives us an immensurable satisfaction.

Just like when you order an eggy toast, and your bloke just orders a normal coffee because he's not that hungry, but when your toast arrives there's this sudden realization that egg's on toast are the best thing ever and that he can't go through the day without having a bit of yours. He's not being tight

we blokes always act on a logical basis.

[Scruffy Mummy]

Rightly or wrongly, I tend to blame private education when I see an arrogrant, posh person (male or female) pushing their weight around! We all have our prejudices - however rational or irrational they might be!

And Azul, you've described my partners other irritating habit of nicking half my brekkie perfectly.

[grabot]

Is it just me, or does the Peckham Rye Cafe create a kind of dissonance? Lots of tables crammed into a strange, curved space, jostling for position. Perhaps the environment rather than the individual is the problem in this case; it seems to stress people out.

[monkeydoctor]

Presumably the man wanting to read the paper in BM thought it was the cafe's copy, not your own... or am I missing something?

[georgina]

I agree with Ganapati ED Mum's are a nightmare - what did childless woman do to them to warrant such looks of utter contempt whilst browsing in Ed on a Saturday afternoon?

Perhaps I answered my own question with - 'what did childless woman do...'

[Scruffy Mummy]

I guess so - but Blue Mountain doesn't have newspapers that it buys and makes avaiable - only copies that might be left behing by others. I could have said that it was my own copy and my own 80p I suppose but he didn't give me a chance before huffing off! Maybe he was having an off day?

I was once on a train at night reading the Guardian and a lovely woman came over and asked if I was finished with G2 as she always did the crossword but hadn't been able to buy the paper that day. So I said I wasn't finished with it but I didn't mind tearing out the crossword page. I did that and she was very happy!

[KalamityKel]

Does this really just apply to the mums? Ive come across many a "silly" father too...

[pepperkinski]

I find Peckham Rye Cafe much better to be in with my child than any of the other ED cafes. As a mother myself, I find in general most the mums I come across lovely but the odd one rude and snotty and probably this is due to snobbishness as I am not a yummy mummy (more a holding-on-by-the-edge-of-my-seat what the hell have i done mummy). But it's not to do with the fact these women are mothers.

[pk]

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and you don't find it inappropriate to make sweeping generalisations?

[*Bob*]

A Chinese man had a go at me yesterday when I asked him if he'd mind moving-up on a bus seat a little.

Chinese men - you need to relax.

[citizenED]

I'm often in the cafes round here with toddler and baby and find them all pretty good. Timing is important. Steer clear of Blue Mountain at busy times. Was in there when it first opened yesterday and had a perfectly amiable time as everyone is chilled out and relaxed, both staff and customers. Always found PRC very child friendly as they have more space.

[georgina]

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Thats neither here nor there - This is a forum and I was giving my own opinion.

[pk]

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oh well, generalise along - any other individual behaviours you've observed that it's your opinion generalise to wider groups?

[Sandperson]

Blimey. The wife's due today and I am petrified of taking the newborn out! I will be getting hard stares from all the childless people and the mothers and fathers trying to run me down with buggies and steal my high chair. I think I shall just stay indoors.

[citizenED]

Don't worry Sandperson - as a few people on this thread have observed most the people you are likely to meet will be longing to congratulate you and coo at your newborn. You'll get loving and longing looks from many. Get out there, enjoy.

oh, and congratulations.

[lozzyloz]

Parents these days are so badly behaved. I blame the kids!

Hope all go's well Sandperson. Guess you'll be exchanging 2 wheels for four!

[Scruffy Mummy]

No, no - most of us are very friendly and kind. My toddler had a right lie-down-on-the-floor-end-of-the-day-tired-out tantrum in Sommerfield on the weekend - all I could do was stand there and wait till it was over really and I got many kind smiles of understanding and one lovely woman said she thought I had a great deal of patience. (But I knew that shouting at toddler when he was in this state would only make it worse!!)

But there is the occasionally type A person - man, woman, parent, childfree who doesn't like you in their space at all. Case in point. Was walking with a friend on the path along the Goose Green Playground with our toddlers about a month ago, We were engrossed in conversation and didn't notice the jogger coming towards us. Instead of simply saying 'Excuse me', he said 'FOR F**** Sake' as he jogged around us!! I was sure there would be a posting about selfish, inconsiderate ED mummies on the forum that evening. Personally, I think it's a London thing!

[snorky]

The thrusting pain in the arsey mummies seem to congregate together - you only notice the ones whop are particl;arly nauseating I think , even thou the vast majoprity of people in the cafes are Ok

best to avoid the likes of Blue mountain if you want to keep these lot at a distance - Dulwich park cafe is pretty bad at ther weekends & lunchtimes - be prepared for paddington bear hard stares should you manage to get a table and sit there waiting for your food.

Oh, and if this does happen you you, I find piling the kids plates high with ketchup is enough to blanche these peoples faces - Ketchup is considered a a form of child abuse for these shitehawks and a table smeared in catsup could well be sprinkled with Polonium as far as they are concerned

[bon3yard]

Although I often have a go at the ubiquity of yummy mummies cluttering up every cafe and pub on Lordship Lane I do so in a lighthearted manner....most of them are well,...yummy..and a balm for concrete jaded vision.