Green and Blue (now reopened)

[Keef]

Just when I had started to spend my money in there... Popped in and bought a lovely bottle last night (even if it was ?21 quid to take away), they were getting ready for a tasting, and everyone seemed in good spirits.

Shame, it is obviously popular, and so it will be a sad loss.

Still think the bar is a bit poncey though ;-)

[Keef]

Interesting that they have just revamped their website, and seem to be pushing more online wine selling...

[legalbeagle]

As the forum has undoubtedly noticed I am a huge fan of G&B and have enjoyed many a wonderful evening there. So much so in fact that I am in the process of joining the management of the business - a job I am delighted to be able to take. You will all appreciate that I am now very limited in any comments I make about this mornings developments. What I can say is that there are many reasons why landlords take such action, the situation is in flux and could change very quickly, and the business is by no means permanently closed. For those of you who are fans and/or loyal customers please bear with us, and we hope to see you all for a drink later on this weekend. Kate and Jude (the owners of Green & Blue) are extremely grateful for the many supportive postings that have appeared this morning.

[Cassius]

Thanks for that information legalbeagle - I very much hope indeed that we will be coming to G&B for a drink this weekend.

[louisiana]

Administrator Wrote:

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> Please can people not mention the drains issue.

> The forum has previously had a formal request that

> the drains issue is not mentioned and should it be

> mentioned it should be curtailed as soon as

> possible.

If a business looks like it's going under, with such clear third-party signs,

and with the history of it being close for such a period, owing to the drains issue

it's not exactly a secret, for crissake

>

> Also please respect that this thread is about a

> legal issue and therefore care should be taken as

> to what is said.

Sure it's about a legal issue. Signs have gone up. We are commenting on them. They are on public view. And we are saying it is a great loss, in terms of the business.

Get over yourself, Administrator.

(I have somewhat more significant legal issues to deal with on a day-to-day basis)

[Jamma]

This business seems to be all fur coat and no knickers. It may well be popular but their wine is overpriced in my opinion, I'm not sure why we're not allowed to mention 'the drains issue' but it was quite an episode and now this. If you want decent wine (at a more reasonable price) there's Nicolas or Boss Man wines. Either this lot have been spectacularly unlucky or they're a bunch of jokers. Either way I'm sure there are better businesses that would add something to Lordship Lane?

[Boris Karloff]

err ... sorry I maybe missed something - but why can't we mention the drains on here?

[Cassius]

Neither Nicholas nor Boss Man wines have anything like the selection that Green & Blue have (although there are some good offerings at the East Dulwich Deli). Neither Nicholas nor Boss Man gave you the opportunity to drink wines by the glass that are seldom on offer except for a rare wine bar, nor did they, nor anyone else that I know of on LL offer wine tasting classes.

These aspects make me hope that they stay open for those of us who enjoyed it to continue to enjoy it.

[Administrator]

The forum has received a notice that discussion of the drainage issue may result in legal action being taken against the forum. No one has said that the current issue is a secret. I should also however make it clear that a notice such as that on the door does not necessarily mean that a business it is going under.

And you are free to comment on the issue, I was just asking politely that people don't rush into saying anything that may be harmful to any parties as it may not help in their matter. louisiana, I apologise if it was not up to the standard of your somewhat more significant legal issues.

[bawdy-nan]

I totally love green and blue. I love the obvious care that goes into choosing the wine. I love that there's not masses and masses of choice. I love the way there are still cheapieh bottles and the way the staff will still talk to you sensibly about how to choose even if your budget isn't vast. I've had some lovely vinous adventures and was gearing myself up to maybe doing some tastings. Its my absolutely favourite wine shop and I really hope it works out.

[Mark]

It'll be sad if they have to close permanently (or even temporarily), I hope they resolve this issue soon.

[Ant]

I hope they manage to reopen soon - I was planning to pop in there and pick up some wine over the weekend.

[legalbeagle]

Jamma - I am sorry you feel that way, I guess we just can't please all of the customers all of the time. We also have no problem with any of you mentioning "the drain issue" should you want to. The request not to do so has come from elsewhere - although I do not know who from.

[Ant]

Perhaps someone doesn't want the gutter press to get hold of the story.

[Keef]

One thing that was unfortunate when I went in last night was that they didn't have a wine I bought only a couple of weeks ago, and when I ponted to a bottle with a very similar label (same vineyard/company, whatever the term is), the guy didn't seem to have a clue what I was on about... He was very nice though, and recommended a very nice, if rather pricey wine instead.

Shame about this weekend, as we were going to book a table for 10 or so for tomorrow night (not my choice I admit, but I would have been dragged along, and sure I would have enjoyed the wine once I was in there).

[louisiana]

Cassius Wrote:

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> Neither Nicholas nor Boss Man wines

I'm sorry, but Boss Man is a complete joke.

I would like someone to point out to me the 'organic' wines in its collection (featuring in the sign) (or indeed, anything else of value there).

It is opportunistic.

have anything

> like the selection that Green & Blue have

> (although there are some good offerings at the

> East Dulwich Deli). Neither Nicholas nor Boss Man

> gave you the opportunity to drink wines by the

> glass that are seldom on offer except for a rare

> wine bar, nor did they, nor anyone else that I

> know of on LL offer wine tasting classes.

> These aspects make me hope that they stay open for

> those of us who enjoyed it to continue to enjoy

> it.

[ClareC]

Pethaps they will be open again by tomorrow.......:)-D

[louisiana]

Ant Wrote:

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> Perhaps someone doesn't want the gutter press to

> get hold of the story.

Ho ho

Very good Ant

[louisiana]

Administrator Wrote:

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> The forum has received a notice that discussion of

> the drainage issue may result in legal action

> being taken against the forum. No one has said

> that the current issue is a secret. I should also

> however make it clear that a notice such as that

> on the door does not necessarily mean that a

> business it is going under.

Of course it does not.

We are - I believe on the whole - supporters of G&B who would like to see the business come out of the other side of difficulties that were not of its making.

Whatever the present notices may mean, I believe that the owners of G&B *will* emerge on the other side, if not unscathed, at least with a relationship with customers that is sustainable. Because they have a huge fan club and also some business nous.

They have also been unlucky (and despite what some may say, luck does play a large part in whatever, unfortunately.)

>

> And you are free to comment on the issue, I was

> just asking politely that people don't rush into

> saying anything that may be harmful to any parties

> as it may not help in their matter. louisiana, I

> apologise if it was not up to the standard of your

> somewhat more significant legal issues.

There was some gentle speculation as to who the server of the notice might be, but I think it's all third conditional stuff: if it's 'blah', then it's 'dah'.

[Fear 'n boozin]

Keef Wrote:

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> I would have been dragged along

kicking and screaming I'm sure.

[EDOldie]

Unlucky is not the word. they don't want to take up gambling. Best Burgundy I ever had came from there, bought a case and there's only one left:)-D But a very good independent wine merchant is a rare treat these days. It's not that expensive for what you get. Compare with Berry Bros or Lay & Wheeler and you tend to get some unusual wines that aren't often seen on the shelves of other wine merchants. Great concept and I hope they can reopen very soon. Oh, I feel totally drained at the news.

[louisiana]

Administrator Wrote:

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> The forum has received a notice that discussion of

> the drainage issue may result in legal action

> being taken against the forum.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Our libel laws are not the best in the world (as Netmums and others have found to their cost.) I live in hope of a government, any government, sorting them out, but I fear it won't happen in my lifetime. What with other important matters to deal with (lap-dancing clubs, casinos etc. etc.)

[Michael Palaeologus]

ITS GOING TO BECOME A LAP-DANCING CLUB AND CASINO???????????????????????

[dc]

louisiana Wrote:

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> Get over yourself, Administrator.

>

> (I have somewhat more significant legal issues to deal with on a day-to-day basis)

Oh the irony!

[pebs]

This is indeed a nightmare of the highest order. I hope it somehow works outself out. Huge loss, if not.