tube station in camberwell

[Mark]

I've just sent Southern an email asking why there's a reduced service between 8 and 9 and if there's any plans to improve it. Fiver says I don't hear back.

[AcedOut]

Probably because of direct services from places further out, such as Croydon.

[*Bob*]

It's easy to 'not want one, actually' when you know there's no chance of getting one.

Of course, if a new tube were to be announced tomorrow to run from ED direct to some useful central destination, 99% of EDF'ers would poo their collective pants with glee.

[AcedOut]

I'm the 1% that would still take a taxi ;)

[Polly D]

MP (although in danger of being lounged), a truly professional couple would shower and do other bathroom 'stuff' while on the tube going to work. Imagine if trendy bathrooms could be built in the train so that one stumbled on in the morning in dressing gown, toothbrush in hand and stepped off the other hand spick and span, likewise, coming home late after work get into pajamas and straight to bed!

[Kathryn]

I to am in the 1% that does not want it.

[ratty]

(6)Polly Dorner Wrote:

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> MP (although in danger of being lounged), a truly

> professional couple would shower and do other

> bathroom 'stuff' while on the tube going to work.

Naked on the train?

Wouldn't be the first time! (6)

[Huguenot]

Hmmm, why aren't there enough services early morning?? Could that perhaps be the unions creating a service which is convenient for their employees, but a nonsense for the travelling public?

[Alan Dale]

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[mockney piers]

The extension going via Denmark Hill received approval almost 2 years ago when my girlfriend worked at TfL surface and for the commissioners office. It was then planned for 2010 which as we all know, means your estimated completion date is pretty much spot on.

[mattC]

I wrote to Southern years ago asking why there were fewer trains between 8 and 9 than at other times. They explained in great detail (I've lost the 2 page letter I'm afraid) that it's all down to the fact that there are fewer 'slots' available to our local trains at those times, since the services from out of town congest the points and stations at places like Norward, Clapham and London Bridge.

Further, they said at the time that although there were no plans to increase services between 8 and 9,that they would be investing squillions into the network over the next x years, which would ultimately deliver "enhanced customer choice".

I'm cross I've been made to rememeber that last bit, as even now, it just makes me my blood boil.

[mamafeelgood]

i like the idea of 'tubeshower' . i can see it now on a LDN news package.

But, would there be first and second class? first maybe a power shower with door that closes, second a bucket of water and bin liner for protection. Would travel card/oyster card users get preferential treatment? would ken give free showers out of rush hour to london's great unwashed and teenagers?

tube or no tube, who cares, commuting to work is a pig which ever way you go ...

[paulet]

There is much talk of possible Bakerloo line extension to Camberwell at http://www.se5forum.org/forum/index.php?topic=118.0 plus on the Camberwell Online blog -

http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/blog/2006/01/meet-at-the-entrance-nearest-the-automated-toilet/

http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/blog/2006/01/eating-and-drinking-and-sleeping-and-working/

http://www.camberwellonline.co.uk/blog/2006/02/camberwell-tube-station-in-2026/

But its not going to happen for at least another 20 years...

[Quaywe]

I heard the reason for no tube in ED is because tunelling under Cambersmell would disrupt the well under Denmark Hill (so that's where Camberwell it gets its name!). So really any tube extension would have to come around Cambersmell to get to us, leaving the Victoria line from Bixton maybe?

[Alan Dale]

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[Mark]

I hear Battersea's getting a tube (or was it Brixton?)

[Alan Dale]

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[mockney piers]

I think the denmark hill will be a different train turning up at the same overland station.

[Keef]

Same for the East London Line going through Sydenham to Crystal Palace. I suspect it will use the same train tracks as far as New Cross Gate, and join the tube line there....

[AcedOut]

Alan - exactly! ED has those early rumours of a tube station to thank.

[Alan Dale]

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[mockney piers]

I live on Denmark Hill...hurrah :D

Sorry Jeremy, I mean booo

[Keef]

Piers let me know if you spot a bargain up your way ;-)

[Michael Palaeologus]

There is a section of tube running down Walworth Road from the Elephant The plan was to extend to Camberwell - but then it didnt. This odd bit of tunnel is used to park up the Bakerloo line trains.

As for tube line extensions over this way - I doubt it. Huguenot pointed out the geological reasons why tunneling in this area is very difficult and expensive - so no Bakerloo line extension. The 2nd phase of the East London Line is due to start after the Olympics - so that wont happen because our blessed MP has b*ggered up the Olympic budget and that will suck up all the cash.

Trams are more likely as they are relatively cheap and the plans would help re-generate both the Elephant in its new form and Peckham. The recent very glossy consultation exercise would seem to show an unusual level of commitment from LB Southwark. I suspect that they have more or less given up on tube extensions to ED and surrounds and see trams as do-able.

The BIG issue is the Tube MAP. Our over-ground rail services are the same as the Metropolitan line - they are relatively short range shuttle services. I have always thought that a re-branding and inclusion on the tube map would comletely change people's perspective. Getting the tram lines on the tube map would help as well. After all the DLR is on the tube map and is seen as part of the tube network but technically isnt.

Its all a matter of perspective.

[Alan Dale]

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