NewWave Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 On the Vegge front there is a vegetarian restaurant just off of Lordship Lane, (Blue Brick Cafe?) However I don't believe its open in the evening.I am not a wealthy person, (retail wages aren't the best) BUT I do wish people would stop grumbling about the prices of the dishes on offer.Lets face it-we can either afford to eat there or we can't, They are not opening a cafe but a destination restaurant with carefully sourced ingredients. Surely we push the boat out a little once in a while for occasion meals?Also I'm sure if the takings suffer as a result of over optimistic pricing they will adjust things accordingly.I find it sad that a business has chosen to invest in opening in our community-not in destination Clapham, or Brixton and people just seem hell bent on bitching about it before its even trading. Its almost as if you want it to fail and end up as Nandos or some other commercial hideousness.Please give it a chance-I can't afford to eat there regularly by the sound of it but I don't have sour grapes as a result. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 HelAny info re Patch was posted early on (ie not much)the fact that they are taking money from customers but not really updating their webpage, pub front, etc isn't really anyone on here's faultThe splash on their webpage is worth re-reading tho"THE PATCH - LONDON'S FIRST SELF-SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY PUB We are re-inventing the concept of the urban pub. Fully independent and self-sufficient, The Patch is a community gastro-pub that is owned, supplied and managed by the local community. "If I recall, the Ivy House promised much the same but followed through with projection spreadsheets and other plans on here. Goodwill remained in place before they opened and you can't get a seat for love nore money on a Sunday nowMaybe same will be true of the Patch? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelBel65 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Eh? Personal spats is what makes the forum fun.> > If you want dry appraisal go to Which magazine ;-PI'm all for a good spat but this thread has now hit 6 pages, of which about 4 consist of irrelevant bickering and long winded point scoring. Just saying...;-) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 As ratios go of facts to spats, that's pretty good!!Wait til it hits 26 pages :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelBel65 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> As ratios go of facts to spats, that's pretty> good!!> Wait til it hits 26 pages :)Oh I know...I follow the M+S thread too! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 The great Foie Gras punch-up/fishing expedition got to 29 pages. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Irrelevant bickering is the only thing keeping this thread alive. Fox and I ought to get a free meal for keeping 'The Patch' top of page. (Separate tables perhaps) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Nah, same table and Channel 4 can film it for a special called "Come Dine With Me, You Fucker" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Hey if I can go and have a drink with buddug after our spats, it's the least you two can do Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's possible the Patch will come good on it's website promises, or on the promises re local breweries here:http://www.bighospitality.co.uk/Business/Entrepreneur-plans-to-turn-East-Dulwich-pub-into-London-s-first-self-sustaining-community-gastropubbut given they are open, have the pumps already installed, and with a very limited (tied-brewery supplied?) beer list, if I was them i would dampen down any negativity with some local engagement. But I haven't seen anyOn here? NothingTwitter? very very littleTheir website? Have a look Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katanita Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 See, this is the difference here between this and any other restaurant/pub opening. They've made a lot of claims for it along these lines that sounded really exciting, but as someone who lives within a very small radius of The Patch, I can't see what they've done to be talking at all with the local community let alone it being "supplied and managed" by them. I've tried asking them questions on their fb page, but didn't get much out of them. I find that a bit disappointing. The Ivy House is a clear contrast, feel a lot of goodwill towards them despite it being a fair distance away and me yet to set foot in it.But I will go in and ask them in person at some point soon, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Hel> > Any info re Patch was posted early on (ie not> much)> > the fact that they are taking money from customers> but not really updating their webpage, pub front,> etc isn't really anyone on here's fault> > The splash on their webpage is worth re-reading> tho> > "THE PATCH - LONDON'S FIRST SELF-SUSTAINABLE> COMMUNITY PUB We are re-inventing the concept of> the urban pub. Fully independent and> self-sufficient, The Patch is a community> gastro-pub that is owned, supplied and managed by> the local community. "> > > If I recall, the Ivy House promised much the same> but followed through with projection spreadsheets> and other plans on here. Goodwill remained in> place before they opened and you can't get a seat> for love nore money on a Sunday now> > Maybe same will be true of the Patch? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopamine1979 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The great Foie Gras punch-up/fishing expedition> got to 29 pages.Surely 'The Cherry Tree Carry-on' of 2012 is up there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Blue Brick cafe is great, love the place. It is surprising there isn't more for veggies around here though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 James Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> To Jeremy:> > What if you went to a restaurant and four out of> five dishes contained different types of squash.> You might say "What if I don't want to eat> squash?" To which I might reply "You anti-squash> extremist, just because you have chosen to be one> of the squash-hating minority, why should you> insist on being offered a whole range of> squash-free dishes?"I never called you an extremist, I respect vegetarians actually. But you are in the minority.Your example would only be analagous if squash was a daily staple for the majority of the population, and I had decided for personal reasons not to eat it. I'd probably be a bit fed up, but it would have been something I'd considered when making the choice to live a squash-free lifestyle. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab167/mickdavies83/DulwichFox_zps5fd799e0.jpgStill HereDF Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Jeremy I guess the point is that meat is not a daily staple. If you look at the world as a whole, people who eat a vegetarian or mainly vegetarian diet are by far in the majority. Huge swathes of India are vegetarian and this has fostered an incredibly rich and varied cuisine.We are part of a weird minority of nations who indistrialised early and have been indoctrinated to perceive meat as an essential part of a 'normal' diet. It isn't. It's actually an unnecessary luxury that causes unnecessary pollution, waste and cruelty. And funnily enough, our terrible health as a nation - high rates of cancers, heart disease, obesity and so on - is largely due to excessive consumption of red meat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 I guess what I'm saying is it's high time the restaurants of East Dulwich caught up with the Ottolenghi's of this world and started realising the potential of beautiful, satisfying veggie cuisine instead of being so in thrall to meat. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquarius moon Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Glad to see you've outrun them Foxy! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips56 Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 It's a shame that people think that when you are vegetarian that you should be grateful that there is one veggie main meal on the menu . Surely they must realise you wouldn't keep going back for the same meal ! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Er..the vegetarian debate has been done before too - to over 32 pages. Please, please don't start it again here. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 James Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I guess what I'm saying is it's high time the restaurants of East Dulwich caught up with the> Ottolenghi's of this world and started realising the potential of beautiful, satisfying veggie> cuisine instead of being so in thrall to meat.Do you think if it worth their efforts, they wouldn't do this? When only 10% of your custom order vegetarian, why devote more that 10% of your menu to it? The reason there aren't more veggie options is that they are just not popular choices. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 James Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Blue Brick cafe is great, love the place. It is> surprising there isn't more for veggies around> here though.xxxxxxThere was.Indian Mischief, on Lordship Lane.Hardly anybody went there, and it closed down. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 That's because from what I'm told, it was shit. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> That's because from what I'm told, it was shit.xxxxxxxI thought the food was generally good, and reasonably priced.Why are you posting on here that it was "shit", if you never actually went there? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted November 5, 2013 Share Posted November 5, 2013 nooooo............... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/37874-the-patch/page/7/#findComment-693480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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