Fight in Sainsbury's DKH (Lounged)

[Zaardvark]

Hi,

Saw a fight last night (Sat c.7.15) in Sainsbury's - group of Black youths were hanging around the front, looking for someone, then after I went in (with my toddler), they saw the guy they were looking for and set about him just past the security guard's station (a large group with dogs).

I have seen odd things in the park next to Sainsbury's, and my wife has seen trouble before at the Sainsbury's entrance.

Does anyone know the basis for this? It seems a recurring problem?

And does anyone know why the small park remains unlit at night-time even though the gates are open and many people use it as a shortcut after dark?

Best

Zaardvark

[mamafeelgood]

can i suggest that you call the local police and let them know. i think that comes under south camberwell. the kids with dogs is something that we need to keep the local neighbourhood team on top of.

[buggie]

Think they might know already, I went into Sainsburys just after 8pm Saturday and an ambulance and police car were there so think it was the tailend of the same incident

[Zaardvark]

Hi,

The police came and the sainsbury's staff were quick quick in dealing with it. The guy who was attacked did not appear to be seriously hurt as far as I could make out.

Best

Zaardvark

[MitchK]

What has their skin colour got to do with it?

[Mark]

MitchK Wrote:

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> What has their skin colour got to do with it?

The original message was describing the youths.

[shoshntosh]

apparently sainsbury's is a hotbed of nastiness at the moment...

recent handbag snatchings from "right under the woman's nose"

and also an accident involving a child and a trolley.

i was encouraged today to be "vigilant" whilst shopping there

(by a staff member).

you certainly don't hear about these sorts of things happening at iceland.

[Brendan]

Do they even have Sainbury's in Iceland?

[Zaardvark]

Hi,

Skin colour was reported to decribe the youths, not for any other reasons, as MitchK pointed out. Indeed I thought that reporting this might be a good reason and generating the reason for a group of us to talk with the manager of Sainsbury's to encourage him/her to beef up the security - ban dogs from the general area and put a kiosk or similar in the park that is open along with lighting.

Best

Zaardvark

[Annasfield]

Brendan Wrote:

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> Do they even have Sainbury's in Iceland?

Bejams.

[NatashaD]

What has their skin colour got to do with it?

Trust someone to play the race card. The skin colour was a description. Would anyone have protested if you'd said a gang of white guys? I doubt it. FFS.

Anyway, this Sainsburys is the most lucrative in the country. It makes more money than any of the others. Rich pickings for unsavoury types who want to rob someone I'd have thought. I'll stick to Morrisons.

[kford]

Went to Iceland the other day and there was no ice.

[NatashaD]

I can't abide Iceland.

[OystercardOdyssey]

Zaardvark, Mark, NatashaD

since this was a description, I think the question to ask is are you 100% sure all the youths were "Black"-most youth groups are a mix of skin colour

otherwise it appears pejorative, not descriptive

[Sue]

NatashaD Wrote:

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> Would anyone have protested if you'd said a gang of white guys? I doubt it. FFS.

>

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Not very likely anyone would have mentioned their skin colour if they'd all been white, is it, NatashaD. That's the point. FFS

:-S

[SteveT]

It seems to be offensive to someone, no matter how the description is written:-S

Surely a hurried description is better than none:(

Perhaps you should patronise a black forum Sue, as you are forever pulling the race card.

Why wouldn't people use an all white description anyway, I would.FFS

[Cassius]

Shouldn't this thread be concentrating on the fact that someone was attacked at Sainsbury's and is anything going to be done about it and to prevent it happening again in the future rather than concentrating on semantics.......

[mamafeelgood]

jesus, enough. there were a gang of intimidating kids and the person chose to describe them. before wading in with an argument about whether this person was right or wrong for what they saw or, before it's decided that it's this or that to state colour of what they saw or, whether you chose to trust them and their views you can check their previous posts to see what kind of opinions that person has previously expressed.

in this case zaardvark seems a well balanced poster who maybe wanted to let people know what they witnessed and if anyone knew what happened. they have also highlighted a very important issue that everyone seems to be ignoring and that is when is the park going to be properly lit?

[mamafeelgood]

yes cassius you are entirely correct, what is going to be done...

[Sue]

SteveT Wrote:

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> >

> Perhaps you should patronise a black forum Sue, as

> you are forever pulling the race card.

>

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What's "pulling the race card" supposed to mean?

:-S

[taper]

I was verbally abused in Sainsbury's car park once: by a smug middle class couple who thought I'd taken a child parking spot. Imagine the trembling joy when mother and child returned to the car, killing dead their self-righteous rant. Be careful out there.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

taper Wrote:

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> I was verbally abused in Sainsbury's car park

> once: by a smug middle class couple who thought

> I'd taken a child parking spot. Imagine the

> trembling joy when mother and child returned to

> the car, killing dead their self-righteous rant.

> Be careful out there.

...My answer is that I DO have a child(I don't btw) he/she just happens not to be with me on this particular occassion:))

[Administrator]

I've never seen any trouble outside or inside Sainsburys, apart from the aforementioned selfish gits who park their cars in the disabled/parent bays when they shouldn't.

[jumpinjackflash]

or tell them that you do indeed have a young child but you sent them to the tobacco kiosk to buy you 20 B&H

[Tony.London Suburbs]

jumpinjackflash Wrote:

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> or tell them that you do indeed have a young child

> but you sent them to the tobacco kiosk to buy you

> 20 B&H

Nah! Can't do that..I don't smoke:))