The Ups and Downs of the Kennedys

[Mick Mac]

50 years so lots to think about. A fascinating family.

[woodrot]

indeed.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I miss their sausages.

[numbers]

am I the only person who wishes they'd managed to read the thread before Woody's edits?

edit - meant to say, my mum was originally a Kennedy.

[MrBen]

Good yoghurts.

Anyone?

[Ted Max]

I wasn't even aware Neighbours had clocked up the half ton.

[maxxi]

numbers Wrote:

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> am I the only person who wishes they'd managed to

> read the thread before Woody's edits?

I read it... it had a historical gist, a family flavour and, it's probably fair to say, was not 'pro'.

Still, water under the (Dike) bridge eh?

[Ted Max]

Any lobotomy references?

[Mick Mac]

And I mean this most sincerely folks.

[holloway]

on a serious note, a fascinating family indeed mick mac. JFK averted nuclear exchange during the cuban missile crisis and tomorrow people should well consider how different the world would be today without his influence. Nontheless, he was a notorious womaniser, rumoured also to have favoured his son over his daughter. despite his faults he is one of my personal heroes and i highly recommend robert dallek's autobiography 'kennedy; an unfinished life'.

ask not what you can do...

[steveo]

Ich bin ein binliner

[Jah Lush]

Useless, ineffectual President who couldn't it keep in his trousers. If it wasn't for his old man's money he wouldn't have got anywhere near the White House. Best thing that ever happened to him was getting shot.

[Alan Medic]

Surely every US President got there with the help of other people's money? I'd like to know why he got shot though. Given you were probably a nipper when he was around what do you base your ineffective Presidency tag on, or that he slept around?

[holloway]

'For in the final analysis, our most basic common link, is that we all inhabit this small planet, we all breathe the same air, we all cherish our children's futures, and we are all mortal.'

JFK 10/06/1963

[woodrot]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Useless, ineffectual President who couldn't keep

> in his trousers. If it wasn't for his old man's

> money he wouldn't have got anywhere near the White

> House. Best thing that ever happened to him was

> getting shot.

180!

[Alan Medic]

On his arse.

[Lilly Potes]

Guys is nice to talk about history but have you read books about the President kennedys lifes and his family.

Ms

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> On his arse.

[Alan Medic]

Lilly Potes Wrote:

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> Guys is nice to talk about history but have you

> read books about the President kennedys lifes and

> his family.

> Ms

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > On his arse.

I was talking about JL not JFK Ms Lilly.

[Jah Lush]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Surely every US President got there with the help

> of other people's money? I'd like to know why he

> got shot though. Given you were probably a nipper

> when he was around what do you base your

> ineffective Presidency tag on, or that he slept

> around?

Umm... let's see now... He nearly took us to a third world war with the Cuban missile crisis, err... Vietnam, his addiction to amphetamines and his constant shagging away from home made him a security threat especially with someone as unstable as Marilyn Monroe, who was probably murdered by the CIA. I don't deny that JFK had charisma and I would say that every Irish/American whether they were catholic or protestant probably voted for him but it took an old bruiser like LBJ to bring in some of the most significant legislation in the annals of US history. Kennedy would and could never have done it. The US was well rid of him - saccharine-coating and all.

As for why he got shot there are a lot of theories whether they be conspiracy ones or not and I'm sure you know the ones I am talking about.

[numbers]

Didn't he successfully abolish the Dead Vote?

[Alan Medic]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffloftus/2013/11/20/jfk-myth-or-great-leader/

[Jah Lush]

Here you go... this should debunk all those hagiographies.

http://original.antiwar.com/eland/2013/11/19/on-the-50th-anniversary-of-jfks-assassination-lets-examine-his-true-legacy/