Flightpaths over ED

[expat]

What a cool map. Thanks

[EDKiwi]

They've opened the airspace above 20,000 feet (ie above the ash cloud) to allow flights to pass over the UK, probably the contrails people can see.

[boosboss]

There goes another!

[Sue]

Gimme Wrote:

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> Depends where you live. If you live towards the

> bottom end of LL or near Goose Green on the SE15

> side or between LL and Peckham Rye Park, you will

> hear the planes big time! Particularly when

> sitting in the garden.

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Yeh I live off North Cross Road, Goose Green end of LL, and I find the planes very irritating.

I hear them start up in the morning if I haven't been sleeping too well, and that's the worst because once one has gone over I lie and wait for the first stirrings of the next one in the distance.

I've been here twenty years and they've got a lot worse. It's been great without any lately.

I do still miss Concorde though, I didn't mind the noise at all then because the plane going over every day was so beautiful to look at.

[Mogs]

Just heard the first rumble of a plane

[moz]

...and now the stream erupts. Just been woken for the third time by a plane coming overhead (Barry Road). First person to paint "Come on, Katla" on their roof gets ?100 from me. I'd quite enjoyed being the breacher of the peace by leaving for work at 3.30am, but ho hum.

Moz

[Sue]

There's one going over now (6)

[James Barber]

If you find the planes annoying then consider joining HACAN - Heathrow Action Campaign Against Noise.Or equally Plane Stupid and Fight the Flights for London City Airport flights.

East Dulwich tends to be at southern end of flights going into land at Heathrow and slap bang on one of the London City Airport approach circuits. London City Airport is planning 50% expansion.

[louisiana]

ratty Wrote:

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> I honestly cannot beleive that people can hear the

> planes that much. Police sirens and lorries are

> twenty times louder!

I've noticed a massive increase in aircraft noise since first moving here in mid 80s.

The worst ones are perhaps the 4.30-5.30am planes that come in one after another: there's no gap in the noise between them: as soon as one starts to fade the next one is coming in.

Then the late night ones, when the ambient noise level is low.

Police sirens happen once in a blue moon. Lorries I never hear. Pneumatic drills are sporadic. But aircraft noise is continuous.

I really enjoyed the break from it. Enjoyed the ability to have silence, and not to have to turn on the radio to mask the aircraft noise. And to be able to sit in the garden listening only to the birds.

[James Barber]

An aircraft free day once a month. Perhaps the first Sunday of every month.

More urgent would be no night flights. It can;t be right to have many 100,000's of peoples sleep disturbed to allow a dozen or so planes to land to maximise airlines profits.

[expat]

>Police sirens happen once in a blue moon.

Not where we live they happen all the times as well as the ambulances.

>An aircraft free day once a month. Perhaps the first Sunday of every month.

And who would foot the bill to the country and the airlines? They estimate each airline loose about ?130 Mill. each day they do not fly.

[sophiesofa]

> >An aircraft free day once a month. Perhaps the

> first Sunday of every month.

> And who would foot the bill to the country and the

> airlines? They estimate each airline loose about

> ?130 Mill. each day they do not fly.

They wouldn't lose that much if they planned for not being open on that day - people would travel on the saturday or the monday.

[louisiana]

expat Wrote:

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> >Police sirens happen once in a blue moon.

> Not where we live they happen all the times as

> well as the ambulances.

>

> >An aircraft free day once a month. Perhaps the

> first Sunday of every month.

> And who would foot the bill to the country and the

> airlines? They estimate each airline loose about

> ?130 Mill. each day they do not fly.

Airlines are not charities. They are not owed a living by anybody. And at present, they are not paying for their externalities, on this and on other counts. We should all be sending them a bill for the sleep disturbance of hundreds of thousands of Londoners week in, week out. Then they might review their behaviour.

[buggie]

James Barber Wrote:

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> An aircraft free day once a month. Perhaps the

> first Sunday of every month.

> More urgent would be no night flights. It can;t be

> right to have many 100,000's of peoples sleep

> disturbed to allow a dozen or so planes to land to

> maximise airlines profits.

No night flights would be all well and good, but where are the planes taking off from?? With the distances covered and differing time zones it smacks of NIMBY-ism... don't want the UK's sleep disturbed so lets disturb another countries sleep by taking off in the middle of the night there.

I heard a plane in the early hours of this morning but only because the foxes fighting/mating had already woken me from slumber!

[SteveT]

As all the planes land in airports around London (except City airport) why are they allowed to fly across London?

It would be safer for all of us to land at the first airport they arrived at without crossing the city.

[James Barber]

Hi buggie,

I once caught a flight back from Canada. It left late afternoon and arrived at 5am. I didn't want to land at 5am and it could have left later from Canada without disturbing anyone's sleep. The reason it did these things was because it could.

If this pattern was'nt allowed they would have flown it somewhere else instead.

Apparently very few night flights each night around 14 but boy are they disruptive. I've read that all the orginating locations have other flgihts landing at civilised times in London. So clearly not a problem to rearrange.

[buggie]

Am amazed you landed at 5am as on a flight to London. I took a few mths back the pilot had said that we weren't allowed to land until 6am. (flew over the Thames rather than East Dulwich :)).

[alanwaterman]

I live in Adys Road and the first flights overhead are around four thirty am, they arrive at intervals of 1 to 2 minutes and this goes on throughout the day. Standing on Peckham Rye Station you could easily count over a dozen planes on approach and stacking. It is simply horrendous and never used to be this way. We are 20 miles from Heathrow and I cannot imagine what effect the increased flight traffic will have our environment/sanity.

[caro7]

We're also on Peckham Rye, and now endure daily 4.30am awakenings from low flying aircraft - it's considerably worse, guess it will only get even more so with the 3rd runway. You can register complaints by emailing noise_complaints@heathrow.com