The Bridge

[steveo]

She's a hard man that Saga but I love her, though I know she can never ever return my love

Can the Belgians muster up a dark Scandi soul of their own?

[root]

Is it about incompetent Dutch hating policemen trying to break up a pedophile ring operating from french fries shops?

[LadyDeliah]

I think her character was more believable in the second series. She was too overdone in the first one, but seems more settled now.

Maybe someone did a bit of research on asbergers/autism this time round!

[root]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> I think her character was more believable in the

> second series. She was too overdone in the first

> one, but seems more settled now.

>

> Maybe someone did a bit of research on

> asbergers/autism this time round!

I liked both seasons, along with the original language Wallander, Engrenages and The Killing not as much.

Find the whole idea of the bridge being (been?) remade as an Anglo French 'the tunnel' abomination slightly cringeworthy.

[steveo]

The Tunnel? That sounds ghastly

Unless Lily Savage plays Saga

[root]

steveo Wrote:

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> The Tunnel? That sounds ghastly

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tunnel_%28TV_series%29

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> Unless Lily Savage plays Saga

:D

[steveo]

No. I mean no

[Drone]

I agree - she was brilliant in the second series and there were really moving moments. Love her!

[????]

I thought you were talking about a famous holstery in Canning Town.....

[ratty]

Just finished it tonight. Amazing!

[edcam]

Still impossible to believe that someone with a such complete inability to read people and situations would be such a good detective but I live Saga and I love The Bridge.

[Huggers]

She analyses the data and reaches a logical conclusion- that makes her a good detective. She analyses human relations in exactly the same way, but human relations are not necessarily logical.

[Michael Palaeologus]

She must have got it wrong about Martin at the end of the last episode ...

[Huggers]

I hope so!

[root]

It was a good ending but was hoping it wouldn't end that way. AS good as season #1 in my books.

[Michael Palaeologus]

You have to feel sorry for Martin. He always gets the sh@tty end of the stick at the end.

[Cassius]

The Americans remade The Bridge with a female American detective and a male Mexican one - it worked quite well but not as good as the original I thought, and the second series was even better (I wonder if the Americans will remake this one too). Apparently a third series is being made so we'll find out exactly what has happened re Martin and Jens.

[ratty]

Surely there is no doubt that Martin has offed Jens? Saga admitted to Martin that she committed a crime and stitched up her mother. There must be some trade off in this?

Will they prove Martin did it without Saga's know how? Is this to come?

They have a fooking eco terrorist to catch FFS!

Cannot wait until Series 3. Sadly I reckon it will be about 2 years?

[Michael Palaeologus]

Nah!! Its all supposition.

Saga came to a logical conclusion because:

1 - poison is missing

2 - Martin has access to the poison

3 - Martin blames Jens for the breakdown of his marriage

4 - Martin visited Jens in prison

5 - Saga saw Martin drop an empty coffee cup into a litter bin

6 - Martin habitually takes coffee for Jens in Prison

7 - Jens has died, possibly by suicide, possibly not

Saga told Martin that "I know what you did", Martin said "Yes you do", but are they talking about the same thing?

There is still nothing to say that Martin killed Jens.

If Martin killed Jens, he will be in prison for all of the next series and that is not going to work.

I think that the next series will start with Martin completely pissed off at Saga for dobbing him in for something he didn't do when he was distraught and vulnerable after he was kicked out by his wife. Then people die and other stuff happens ...

[unlurked]

Jens asked Martin to help him commit suicide as Martin had got to him. Martin let Jens poison himself and disposed of the tainted coffee cup. Manslaugter not murder. Saga will destroy the cup evidence and Martin will get off, and they will both have evaded the law, and carry on sleuthing.

The next series will not include the ecoterrorist as he got away,unsolved,end of. Great prog.

[MarkE]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

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> Saga told Martin that "I know what you did",

> Martin said "Yes you do", but are they talking

> about the same thing?

Not quite. Martin asked "Do you think I did it?" and she replied "You know I do". However, as you say they could be talking about different things, but what?

> 5 - Saga saw Martin drop an empty coffee cup into a litter bin

More than that - she went back to retrieve it and presumably wouldn't have acted without confirmation that the coffee cup contained the poison.

More to the point, however, was that if Jens was indeed poisoned and it turned out to be the same liquid as was from the missing bottle from the evidence store, trying to find a way to unpin it from Martin is going to be impressive. The only other outcomes would be that either Jens wasn't poisoned (unlikely) or that his poisoning wasn't necessarily from the bottle and that Martin (or someone else) had taken it but for other means. Had Martin considered suicide after Mette rejected him, perhaps?

[root]

Sod the bridge .... Has anyone else watched Salamander with great expectations and was left rather disappointed? So spectacularly bad it could have been imported from the US.

[ratty]

Sad to hear that as I am going to start it tonight!

[Ladygooner]

I enjoyed Salamander - only thing missing is a love interest

[Michael Palaeologus]

Not quite. Martin asked "Do you think I did it?" and she replied "You know I do". However, as you say they could be talking about different things, but what?

Which does not prove that Martin killed Jens just that Saga thinks he did. Martin did not confirm or deny.

> 5 - Saga saw Martin drop an empty coffee cup into a litter bin

More than that - she went back to retrieve it and presumably wouldn't have acted without confirmation that the coffee cup contained the poison.

Ah, but was there enough time to do the test? She took the coffee cup in the evening, went to see Martin's boss and shortly after arrested him. As yet, we do not know that the coffee cup contained poison. Previously Martin has left Jens with his coffee. Perhaps the coffee cup that Martin had and binned was simply Martin's coffee cup?

More to the point, however, was that if Jens was indeed poisoned and it turned out to be the same liquid as was from the missing bottle from the evidence store, trying to find a way to unpin it from Martin is going to be impressive. The only other outcomes would be that either Jens wasn't poisoned (unlikely) or that his poisoning wasn't necessarily from the bottle and that Martin (or someone else) had taken it but for other means. Had Martin considered suicide after Mette rejected him, perhaps?

We still have a shadowy bad guy who seems all powerful at the moment. Who is to say that he didn't organise it to disrupt the Martin/ Saga partnership? No more outlandish than any of the other bits of manipulation that he has undertaken.