tomdhu Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Looking for help in identifying where this picture was taken. The best clue must be the stepped tower on the skyline. It could be above a town hall, theatre, hospital or church.Being an East Kent bus, it could be anywhere between Central London and Margate but most likely South London.For those interested in buses BFN 797 is Leyland Tiger TS8 fitted with a Park Royal C32R half canopy body.It was delivered in 1940 and was the first of a large order of which only one was supplied because of wartime restrictions.It might have been on its first trip as it looks extremely shiny. The posters behind are for Goodyear tyres and Lamb's Navy Rum.http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t643/savedelhi/EastKent_zpsdc73966c.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireangel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The tower looks like the one at camberwell on top of the old bank opposite the green, Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Given the hoarding and high lighting fixtures behind the bus, could the location be one of the bus stands / stations the bus would have started from or passed through ?If you can get details of routes which the bus served, perhaps you can eliminate the stops/station locations one by one. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 fireangel Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The tower looks like the one at camberwell on top> of the old bank opposite the green,The Camberwell tower mentioned is very different.http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00117/bricks-camberwell-8_117920c.jpgDulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 fireangel Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The tower looks like the one at camberwell on top> of the old bank opposite the green,Thanks, but I checked Camberwell on Google Images and it's not.Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 KidKruger Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Given the hoarding and high lighting fixtures> behind the bus, could the location be one of the> bus stands / stations the bus would have started> from or passed through ?> If you can get details of routes which the bus> served, perhaps you can eliminate the> stops/station locations one by one.Yes, I looked at a map of Kent and Googled towers, domes, town halls and hospitals for virtually all the towns and came up with nothing which makes me think it's in South/East London somewhere.Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireangel Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I know I've seen it somewhere!! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computedshorty Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 This one was on the Canterbury Route,or one on Portsmouth run. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 They used to run to Victoria coach station so can you think of anything around there that might be where they would park up?Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-776991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laur Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The dome is similar but not quite...! http://swim.net-genie.co.uk/siteimage/scale/0/0/30558.jpg Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 it looks like the tower on the remaining bit of what was Dulwich Hospital ??http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2605561 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbers Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 tomdhu Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> They used to run to Victoria coach station so can> you think of anything around there that might be> where they would park up?> Tombehind Westminster Cathedral? Is it one of the towers? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 Laur Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The dome is similar but not quite...! > > http://swim.net-genie.co.uk/siteimage/scale/0/0/30> 558.jpg'Fraid not, the relative size of the upper columns is wrong. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 numbers Wrote:> > behind Westminster Cathedral? Is it one of the> towers?Close but no. This shot shows the Westminster tower in greater detail. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 It's quite a challenge, isn't it. The tower is really all we have to go on and even that may not exist today.Given that the photo was probably taken between 1940 and say 1950, it's quite probable that the advertising hoardings were screening a bomb site and certainly would no longer exist.It may even be that the tower itself was destroyed later in the blitz.But someone out there must know.Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 North west Kent? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Maidstone maybe?The tower in the background here looks similar though I can't work out what or where it is.http://www.old-picture.com/europe/Maidstone-Street-England-High.htm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Maidstone maybe?> > The tower in the background here looks similar> though I can't work out what or where it is.> > http://www.old-picture.com/europe/Maidstone-Street> -England-High.htm'Fraid not. Here's another view of the same building in Maidstone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiq Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 the mind shop - goose green has a tower like that? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponderwoman Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 This tower does look like ED baths, but the arches in the photograph are pointed, not flat.. However there were advertising hoardings in ED Road and as a bomb dropped very close, could the tower have been rebuilt? If any one is going along North Cross, look at the photograph of the baths and check the date and the tower.Have you any reason to suspect the photograph was taken locally? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 28, 2014 Author Share Posted August 28, 2014 As suggested in my original post it could be anywhere between Victoria Coach Station and Margate but most probably is in South London rather than Kent because of the height of the tower and the probability that the hoardings are screening bomb damage. Because of congestion around Victoria, coaches would park up in the inner suburbs until required. This suggests it might be close to the Old Kent Road.That aside, the EDF has a very wide catchment area with lots of willing people who will have a connection with many other parts of South and East London plus of course Kent. Offset against this is the fact that only persons of a certain age might recall the actual building even if it no longer exists.The question of the location has challenged the detective skills of several vintage bus enthusiasts for quite some time so it would be really great to solve the mystery conclusively.Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Unlikely to be a bomb site.The ridge/roof of the adjacent late 18th or early 19th wood building is undamaged. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
keano77 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Could it be this bell tower behind the Herne Bay garage? Scroll down to the Leyland Tiger TS8 - JG 9932-9966 listing on this linkhttp://www.classicbuses.co.uk/ektig.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomdhu Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 keano77 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Could it be this bell tower behind the Herne Bay> garage? > > Scroll down to the Leyland Tiger TS8 - JG> 9932-9966 listing on this link> > http://www.classicbuses.co.uk/ektig.htmlDifficult to see the detail but I don't think it is.Tom Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-777460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townleygreen Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 As I said days ago, it is the tower on Dulwich Hospital!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2605561 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/48370-mystery-picture/#findComment-778261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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