On the Ball (new Football Focus)

[Jah Lush]

Yeah! I'm still laughing. Ha ha!.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Yeah! I'm still laughing. Ha ha!.

I've always said you need a good sense of humour to support spuds, especially with 'onest 'Arry at the helm.

[paragon]

I left early. I was bored and annoyed to waste 66 squid to see our season unfold without a fight at all. I applaud the players by buying my ticket and if I want to leave early I will.

[Sherwick]

Until we can find adequate replacements for Viera and Henry, we'll never challenge the very top.

:(

[Atila Reincarnate]

paragon Wrote:

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> I left early. I was bored and annoyed to waste 66

> squid to see our season unfold without a fight at

> all. I applaud the players by buying my ticket

> and if I want to leave early I will.

You applaud the players by buying a ticket???? Not the same as cheering and applauding is it!!!

[red devil]

I've never understood fans leaving early, even the Utd ones who leave with 5 mins left so they can get out of the Trafford car park quicker, a lot can happen in the last 5 mins ;-)

[Keef]

how underrated Park and O'Shea are

I've always liked Park.

As for below the belt Keef...videos of Gerard kissing the camera and various other posts by your lot when you beat us?

Two wrongs don't make a right, I see your point, and thought at the time that it would come back to haunt Liverpool fans, but surely you can see the difference? Your lot actually win a shed load of things, and have always been so cocky about it (not so much the players, although Ronaldo lacks class sometimes). That is why I find it very hard to take my hat of to United sometimes, I like a gracious winner.

If Liverpool win the league anytime soon, I cringe to think how some (and we both know who I mean) will act, and I'd find that just as classless!

[red devil]

Fair point Keef, there's a thin line between banter and vitriol...

[Jah Lush]

The game lasts 90 minutes plus time added on. How anyone can leave a match before the end is beyond me. A true fan stays to the end to support his team through thick and thin.

[Atila Reincarnate]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> The game lasts 90 minutes plus time added on. How

> anyone can leave a match before the end is beyond

> me. A true fan stays to the end to support his

> team through thick and thin.

Couldn't have put it better myself

[Annasfield]

As for below the belt Keef...videos of Gerard kissing the camera and various other posts by your lot when you beat us?.

Errr... :-$ Yeah, sorry about that. I did apologise at the time though (and I was encouraged). Don't really like to be smug as it does tend to bite you on the arse.

Didn't really watch the game last night although I was praying for an Arsenal win. Hopefully they'll want some vengenance in the league.

[matthew123]

Heaven help us when football fans greet success with a handshake and then switch on the radio to listen to the cricket..

[Keef]

Yeah, sticking 2 fingers up at other people for an acheivment that isn't yours is much better.

This is why I have come to the conclusion that I am not a "real" footy fan. I love watching the game, I want Liverpool to win things, and I particularly like it when they beat certain teams.

Yet, I will cheer these other teams in european games, and if Liverpool get beat, I will go about my day and move on...

... to the oval perhaps.

[Sandperson]

Anna, we can take it really, but I was just making a point. :))

[matthew123]

I really don't understand why anyone who is a Liverpool fan would want to cheer Man United over any other team unless it's to Liverpool's advantage and vice versa - are you seriously telling me Keef you would support United in the Final over Barcelona or Chelsea!?

If Spurs were playing Real Madrid tonight I may root for Spurs, but I'd not expect that from West Ham, Arsenal or Chelsea fans. Rivals do not support each other - you do not cross that line! :)

[Ladygooner]

Loads of fans left after the 3rd goal - I don't call them true supporters. Some of us chanted "is there a fire drill" at them. Whats the point of paying all that money if you don't stay to the end?

[Jah Lush]

Exactly LG. It seems you've got more than your fair share of the Prawn Sandwich Brigade.

[Atila Reincarnate]

It's not what I'd call 'em, mugs.

[Keef]

are you seriously telling me Keef you would support United in the Final over Barcelona or Chelsea!?

Against Chelsea I wouldn't give a sh!t, I'd just watch as a neutral.

Against Barca, I'd honestly be a bit torn. Yes Man U are Liverpool's biggest rivals, but why more so than anyone else? For scousers and mancs, it's obvious local rivalry, but for a supporter from London, or indeed Wales, why should it be such a big thing?

Having lived in Liverpool, yes I feel a bit more competetive towards Man U than most teams, but if they're playing a european team, then I just want to see a great football match (and whatever you say, Man U are a great football team, with a very good midfield), and I'd be quite happy to see an English team win. Then I hear a load of Man U fans being total cocks about it, and so I suddenly feel like I've been foolish to cheer them... It's a catch 22 for me :-S

I'd never boo a Man U player in an England shirt though, well possibly Phil Neville giving away that penalty years ago.

This competition about being a proper or real fan gets on my tits. You and Anna go up to Anfield all the time and follow the team. I don't because I can't afford to, and honestly if I had more money, I'd spend it going to see gigs rather than footy matches, because it's a better experience for me (I have crappy eyesight, so going to matches gives me limited access, I'd rather see it clearly on a tv with a cold beer in the pub).

However, I love watching football, probably as much as anyone else on here, and I feel a lot of love towards Liverpool because I have fond memories of the place, and going to Anfield a lot (when it wouldn't have meant every spare penny I have).

Please don't take that as confrontational, I am just trying to explain how I see things.

Where we definitely differ, is that I would much much rather see England win a world cup, and experience that joy and buzz in the pubs, than cheer Liverpool winning any cup.

[Keef]

I'm not sure what point I was making there, I went off on one, and made several :-$

[red devil]

Keef Wrote:

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> Yeah, sticking 2 fingers up at other people for an

> acheivment that isn't yours is much better.

>

> This is why I have come to the conclusion that I

> am not a "real" footy fan. I love watching the

> game, I want Liverpool to win things, and I

> particularly like it when they beat certain teams.

>

>

> Yet, I will cheer these other teams in european

> games, and if Liverpool get beat, I will go about

> my day and move on...

>

> ... to the oval perhaps.

I admire your Corinthian spirit Keef, I find the most obnoxious vitriolic fans don't tend to come from the area of the team they support, they're easy to spot, they overdo the 'I hate so and so' act to compensate, wearing it like some badge of honour hoping they'll be readily accepted into the fold...

[Mikecg]

I'm shocked, My undying love for ManU has been made very apparent on the forum so although un-patriotic I will be supporting Barcelona if Chelski fail, I wont support United in Europe even though they are an English club because it would be wrong sorry I just cant help it.

[Sandperson]

Mikecg Wrote:

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> I'm shocked, My undying love for ManU has been

> made very apparent on the forum so although

> un-patriotic I will be supporting Barcelona if

> Chelski fail, I wont support United in Europe even

> though they are an English club because it would

> be wrong sorry I just cant help it.

No way Mike! I thought you'd be right behind us. ;-)

[Atila Reincarnate]

Keef Wrote:

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> I'm not sure what point I was making there, I went

> off on one, and made several :-$

Never apologise for being passionate about your club mate, it's a good thing there are still people like you out there, and I wish a few more of them were at our place last night!!

[Mikecg]

Really sorry mate I just think that so many people dis their largest rivals all season and then support them in Europe when their team has been eliminated, it's a bit false and to be honest. I know it's a little harsh but I am at least being honest I dont want to inflame anything theres no point, I just think that it would be shallow to support them while despising them during the season.