Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Sandperson Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I think AG has finally lost it. Did anyone hear a

> bang in south London, if so, I think it was his

> head exploding. :))


Well, well if it it isn't the plastic manc and his so called sense of humour. Keep up the day job cos a comedian you ain't, although you're worthy of being laughed at.

For those that care... it's the FA Cup tomorrow, Dulwich Hamlets v Sevenoaks Town at 3 p.m.


If anyone thinks they've ever followed their Club on the road to Wembley.. which I have countless times with Liverpool.. I have to say there is nothing quite like following your local team from August through all the prelimenary rounds as I once did back in yonder until we reached the first round proper and faced the might of Cardiff City. Ahhh Hot Bovril in shitty paper cups, standing on the touchline and finally losing 4-2.. not quite Istanbul but still..


Tempted to attend but I'll probably give it a miss in favour of sticking my loyal ear to radio commentary from Bolton..

Despite Atila's typically umm....robust tone I agree with him about this Eduardo business. Diving for penalties has a long and ignoble history, and we can all name the usual suspects. Picking on Eduardo is just absurd. In addition I think Wenger's take on the whole business - that it was a penalty but not a dive, that Eduardo in particular is bound to be somewhat sensitive to the chances of incurring a serious injury and consequently there's going to be a fine line between diving and simply avoiding serious physical collisions.


But where scarves etc are concerned he's on his own, and cheap shots at Liverpool - both the city and the club - just remind us why it is so easy not to love Arsenal. :))

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> What's more embarassing is the fact the Pool

> haven't won the Prem!!



And what's even more embarrassing is the fact that Arsenal haven't won anything full stop for a few years now!!! ;-)

On the subject of diving though, I am with Atila. It goes on at every level, and Gerrard has been guilty more than once. Either clamp down or don't, but don't just make a big thing of one case. That said, it was a blatant cheat the other night, which took the sheen off what could have been a fair and square result.

It really needs to he part of a debate about replay evidence. As long as FIFA prevaricate stupid bolas will be dis/allowed and 'gamesmanship' will be rife.

We need these decisions to be made quickly and for punishment to be severe, eduardo should have been sent off for instance (as in the past should have many many others).

Until there is this fundamental shift we'll be on this board until tibuctoolapolooza complaining about this.

It's harsh on Eduardo but the clean up has to start some where and I believe this will send out a very strong message across Europe and can only be for the good of the game. Platini and UEFA are often maligned but on this occasion they have my full support... and if they want to take retrospective action on Gerrard and Ronaldo then do it.

Keef Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> On the subject of diving though, I am with Atila.

> It goes on at every level, and Gerrard has been

> guilty more than once. Either clamp down or don't,

> but don't just make a big thing of one case. That

> said, it was a blatant cheat the other night,

> which took the sheen off what could have been a

> fair and square result.



Well said Keef. All this Arsenal "we would have won anyway" talk is probably true - but we will never know - a fair contest was all that Celtic deserved, and they did not even get that. That takes the shine off the Arsenal win.


I think where there is a blatent case of diving you DO have to highlight it - it makes other players think twice.

Wenger fumed: "It is a complete disgrace. It singles out a player to be a cheat and that is not acceptable. We will not accept the way Uefa have treated this.


"There is a complete lack of logic in this case. Why? Because people have reacted emotionally. That I can understand in this case, first.


"Secondly because this case has been ruled by the media and three emotionally by the Scottish FA. Scottish people are working at Uefa. This case is more sensitive because they have more influence there."


If Eduardo is suspended he would miss Standard Liege away on 16 September and the home match with Olympiacos on 29 September.


Wenger added: "I believe you can debate whether it is a penalty or not. But this charge implies that with intent and with a desire to cheat the referee, Eduardo did act.



Yes - that's right Arsene - that is what UEFA is saying. They are saying he is a cheat.

They can allege he was a "cheat" but it is surely impossible to be certain? It's not like the guy who clutched his head when the ball had clearly hit his body, or Eduardo performed lots of melodramatic rolling and writhing after going down. I am all for systematically trying to eradicate the diving culture, but I don't this is a good example with which to launch such a campaign.

Injury is not in question here Simon. He fell over without being touched to gain a penalty. That makes him a cheat. Its nothing to do with feigning injury.


It's been highlighted by the press and a UEFA ban will highlight it further. Players will think twice in future. Good result. I have no sympaty for him - He should not have done it.

matthew123 Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> For those that care... it's the FA Cup tomorrow,

> Dulwich Hamlets v Sevenoaks Town at 3 p.m.

>

> If anyone thinks they've ever followed their Club

> on the road to Wembley.. which I have countless

> times with Liverpool.. I have to say there is

> nothing quite like following your local team from

> August through all the prelimenary rounds as I

> once did back in yonder until we reached the first

> round proper and faced the might of Cardiff City.

> Ahhh Hot Bovril in shitty paper cups, standing on

> the touchline and finally losing 4-2.. not quite

> Istanbul but still..

>


Got all a bit jumpers for goalposts there. "Marvellous, wasnit"

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • While it is good that GALA have withdrawn their application for a second weekend, local people and councillors will likely have the same fight on their hands for next year's event. In reading the consultation report, I noted the Council were putting the GALA event in the same light as all the other events that use the park, like the Circus, the Fair and even the FOPR fete. ALL of those events use the common, not the park, and cause nothing like the level of noise and/or disruption of the GALA event. Even the two day Irish Festival (for those that remember that one) was never as noisy as GALA. So there is some disingenuity and hypocrisy from the Council on this, something I wll point out in my response to the report. The other point to note was that in past years branches were cut back for the fencing. Last year the council promised no trees would be cut after pushback, but they seem to now be reverting to a position of 'only in agreement with the council's arbourist'. Is this more hypocrisy from 'green' Southwark who seem to once again be ok with defacing trees for a fence that is up for just days? The people who now own GALA don't live in this area. GALA as an event began in Brockwell Park. It then lost its place there to bigger events (that pesumably could pay Lambeth Council more). One of the then company directors lived on the Rye Hill Estate next to the park and that is likely how Peckham Rye came to be the new choice for the event. That person is no longer involved. Today's GALA company is not the same as the 'We Are the Fair' company that held that first event, not the same in scope, aim or culture. And therein lies the problem. It's not a local community led enterprise, but a commercial one, underwritten by a venture capital company. The same company co-run the Rally Event each year in Southwark Park, which btw is licensed as a one day event only. That does seem to be truer to the original 'We Are the Fair' vision, but how much of that is down to GALA as opoosed to 'Bird on the Wire' (the other group organising it) is hard to say.  For local people, it's three days of not being able to open windows, As someone said above, if a resident set up a PA in their back garden and subjected the neighbours to 10 hours of hard dance music every day for three days, the Council would take action. Do not underestimate how distressing that is for many local residents, many of whom are elderly, frail, young, vulnerable. They deserve more respect than is being shown by those who think it's no big deal. And just to be clear, GALA and the council do not consider there to be a breach of db level if the level is corrected within 15 minutes of the breach. In other words, while db levels are set as part of the noise management plan, there is an acknowledgement that a breach is ok if corrected within 15 minutes. That is just not good enough. Local councillors objected to the proposed extension. 75% of those that responded to the consultation locally did not want GALA 26 to take place at all. For me personally, any goodwill that had been built up through the various consultations over recent years was erased with that application for a second weekend, and especially given that when asked if there were plans for that in post 2025 event feedback meetings (following rumours), GALA lied and said there were no plans to expand. I have come to the conclusion that all the effort to appease on some things is merely an exercise in show, to get past the council's threshold for the events licence. They couldn't give a hoot in reality for local people, and people that genuinely care about parkland, don't litter it with noisy festivals either.   
    • Aria is my go to plumber. Fixed a toilet leak for me at short notice. Reasonably priced and very professional. 
    • Anyone has a storage or a display rack for Albums LPs drop me a message thanks
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...