Chick Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I asked a vegan if they ate honey and was surprised when she said ?no, they (bees) mix it with saliva?. I am not sure that is true but I find it weird that any one wouldn?t eat honey for moral reasons.I doubt bees produce saliva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowlander Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Jains don't eat it, but never heard of Western vegans avoiding it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The secret ingredient that turns nectar into honey is bee ?spit.? Chemicals in the bees? saliva help change the nectar into sugars. The nectar/saliva mixture is then stored in the beeswax comb by the workers. Source:- http://oklahoma4h.okstate.edu/aitc/lessons/extras/facts/honey.html DulwichFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Posted November 11, 2014 Author Share Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks DF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Watch "Bee Movie", great film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamMum Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I thought that Veganism by definition was avoiding anything produced by animals, including honey and wool that don't require the animal to die to be produced. I guess it depends how extreme you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 so if a vegan was to brush a fly off an apple, does that mean they can no longer eat it as it contains fly vomit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Forget fly puke, it would contain your dead skin cells. Ewwwwwwwwww! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Veganism is dietary self flagellation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I thought vegans only ate their own, tortured, hungry souls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcam Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Vegans are silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 I heard someone on the radio say this morning, 'Well, I've never heard a carrot scream'. Rather arrogant to assume that because it doesn't register to our limited range of senses, it can't exist. According to some Buddhists, at a microbiological level, a salad sandwich is carnage (vegage?).On the Food Prog on R4 this week it was said that mushrooms are somewhere between animal and vegetable, which is thought-provoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> On the Food Prog on R4 this week it was said that> mushrooms are somewhere between animal and> vegetable, which is thought-provoking.You mean between the steak and the chips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsaboy Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Yeah, next to the grilled tomato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 Careful with the tomato, that's for decoration only.Is ketchup one of your five a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gray Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 But we all get eaten eventually, surely?Circle of life, and all that.This has put me in a mood for a good steak, now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 If a plane crashed and we were all stranded on a remote and snowy mountanWho would you eat first?I'd probaly go for the Vegan first, then the veggie, and follow that with the big guy in row 6Mind you, i'd hoped to be rescued before I had to eat the big guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I heard that every Fig contains dead wasps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bermygirl31 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 No - strict vegans do not eat honey. It's for the same reason they don't drink milk. A strict vegan doesn't eat anything at all that is derived from an animal....and that means anything. My cousin is vegan and they are very strict about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 so if humans were to go around gathering pollen and turning it honey would that be allowed? Do *we* count as animals?Strikes me as a contrived, weird and pointless lifestyle choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Will someone think of the poor bloody worms that help all that soil the vegetables grow in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> so if humans were to go around gathering pollen> and turning it honey would that be allowed? Do> *we* count as animals?I guess a less absurd example might be breastfeeding - which vegans usually think is OK, presumably because it's voluntary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> El Pibe Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > so if humans were to go around gathering pollen> > and turning it honey would that be allowed? Do> > *we* count as animals?> > I guess a less absurd example might be> breastfeeding - which vegans usually think is OK,> presumably because it's voluntary.How is breastfeeding remotely absurd? You've lost me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 If I changed "less absurd" to "realistic", would that satisfy your pedantic urges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 And snoggingDo real vegans do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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