MrBen Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 What's the general consensus?Modfather icon now rightly heading for British music statesman accolades?Or regular purveyor of album sludge rock to a crowd of late forty somethings who refer to him simply as "Weller" down the pub. Not to mention the serial Jools Holland appearances. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Are late-fortysomethings allowed to respond too? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Like many artists deemed to be icons, Paul Weller divides opinion. Personally I can take or leave him. Some of his early stuff is ok and nothing more, but in the last 15 years or so most of it is meh. Much prefer stuff with the Jam Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
miga Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Is there a smugger man on the planet than 'Jools' Holland? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Are late-fortysomethings allowed to respond too?They are. And the perspectives of 60-something baby boomers also welcome. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I wouldn't say I was a fan. I have a few of his records. The Jam were very much of their time but he wrote some 'classic' material with them at a very young age. I didn't like the Style Council at all and his solo stuff is hit and miss. I can take him or leave him but you've got to admire his longevity in the music business. If he's getting accolades and awards now it's probably because he's been around so long.Though I've never been over keen on his singing voice. He's a fine musician without being spectacular or show offy and a good songwriter who's learnt his craft over the 40 years he's been working. He's written some great songs and some not so good too. His shows still sell out and he still shifts plenty of units. I suppose you could say he's a bit of a geezer but saying he's a icon is a bit of a stretch and I hate all that Modfather bollocks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 steveo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Is there a smugger man on the planet than 'Jools'> Holland?Ricky Gervais. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Solo - some good songs, but mostly meh.Style Council ? the consensus is they were crap. And I agree with the consensus.The Jam ? started off brilliant, went off a bit towards the end. Saw this the other day on Sky Arts and remembered how great The Jam were live: Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I love The Jam. Especially pre-1980, but even towards the end there was good stuff too. Solo stuff is dull as dishwater, and he looks stupid with his perma-tan and that haircut. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jctg Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 steveo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Is there a smugger man on the planet than 'Jools'> Holland?Simon CowellJeremy ClarksonYanis Varoufakis Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 jctg Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> steveo Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Is there a smugger man on the planet than> 'Jools'> > Holland?> > Simon Cowell> Jeremy Clarkson> Yanis VaroufakisPiers Morgan Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Parkdrive Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> jctg Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > steveo Wrote:> >> --------------------------------------------------> > > -----> > > Is there a smugger man on the planet than> > 'Jools'> > > Holland?> > > > Simon Cowell> > Jeremy Clarkson> > Yanis Varoufakis> > > Piers MorganDavid CameronTony Blair Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Simon Cowell - He knows he's a twatJeremy Clarkson - SmuggishYanis Varoufakis - poisoned chalicePiers Morgan - arseholeRicky Gervais - smug and insecureDavid Cameron - smug and fatTony Blair - paranoid, scared, insane Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jctg Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Jos? Mourinho?Michael Gove?James Corden? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 The Jam were massive for teenagers in the punk/post punk period although slighty sneered at by the older in the punk generation, personally, I liked them but not as much as some people who where (and some still are, fanatics); I have several mates who say that the Jam are the best band ever!P{ost the Jam, all pretty shite - his blue eyed soul style council stuff utter shite; and his 'ive discovered Neal Young' rockier stuff OKish, nut overared.As a person, apparently a humourless arseh*le and it comes over in interviews too.But, the Jam stuff deserves recognition, they were massive (UK only 1978-81(?)) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 OK Corden wins Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hold on - what about George Osborne? Or Stephen Fry? Or Russell Brand? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Jam were ace, I missed them as I grew up as I was too in to punk and new wave - but when I got into them retrospectively, after they'd split I thought they were red-hot. Was gutted to have not been 'on it' at the time.Fantastic songs, well delivered, great poetry IMO.Style Council - maybe one or two songs.Solo - not bovered. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 ???? Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The Jam were massive for teenagers in the> punk/post punk period although slighty sneered at> by the older in the punk generation, personally, I> liked them but not as much as some people who> where (and some still are, fanatics); I have> several mates who say that the Jam are the best> band ever!> > P{ost the Jam, all pretty shite - his blue eyed> soul style council stuff utter shite; and his 'ive> discovered Neal Young' rockier stuff OKish, nut> overared.> > As a person, apparently a humourless arseh*le and> it comes over in interviews too.> > But, the Jam stuff deserves recognition, they were> massive (UK only 1978-81(?))Met him once in an art gallery. Humourless arsehole sums him up nicely.Quite like the Jam. Not so keen on SC. Quite like the Wild Wood solo album. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Was never a fan of the Jam, despite many mates at the time being well into themUnusually, but not uniquely, I quite like a lot of the Style Council stuffSolo ? Liked the Uh Huh Oh Yeah single early on and then loathed pretty much everything bar his most recent albums which are at least interestingNever liked him in interviews ? he appears to have softened ever so slightly of late and realised how uptight he has always been. But it?s only marginalAs for all the other men being named as self-satisifed on the thread:a) Again?b) Why do it in this thread?c) People you don?t like not same as self-satisfied and smug ? I would go farther and say many of those named are riddled with lack of security hence the need for public approval Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I saw him on Sunday. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Definitely my favourite Eastenders dog. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBen Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Smug was applied to Jools not PW. I happen to like the way the Mod God carries himself. He might be surly but he doesn't suffer fools nor is he in rampant ego territory...he's just a bit frosty.It's cool to say you like the Jam. Saying you like Style Council is not cool. But part of the reason for starting this thread was pre-Dulwich Hamlet FC reappraisal. Some of the SC stuff is great and has aged really well. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandNewGuy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 ???? Wrote:------------------------------------------------------- > As a person, apparently a humourless arseh*le and> it comes over in interviews too.My other half had some music biz dealings with him and his father back in the 80s. The whole family were humourless arseh*les apparently. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/54102-weller/#findComment-820451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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