Now I'm mad...

[Huguenot]

We had a charming correspondent on the subject of religion a few months back, but this really gets my goat...

Two catholics and a brazilian

Let's hear it for team Pope!

[RosieH]

Christ. What can you possibly say in response? Now might be the time for BBW to invoke king cnut.

Excommunicated? Well they're well rid of such a despicable fucking cunt of an archbishop and if the pope comes out in defence of this, or arguably worse, keeps quiet, then I can only hope that that signals a death knell for catholicism around the world. Although of course it won't/

There are no words of anger or disgust that adequately express how I feel about this.

[candj]

That article was almost unbearable to read. I suppose they tried to argue that the girl was physically too small to have twins and thus her life was in danger, but it didn't work. It's incredibly sad, really and amazing how unyielding and inflexible religion can be sometimes.

[TillieTrotter]

Oh my, I couldn't read it all as it's just too disturbing. This is when you see the filth that religion is/can be. Disgusting.

[LegalEagle-ish]

That is pretty grim.

[giggirl]

That's just beyond disgusting. I know that this is nowhere near the same ballpark, but when I was a child our priest (catholic) would not baptise babies born out of wedlock. The catholic church preaches that you can't enter the the Kingdom of Heaven un-baptised. So if this teaching was correct it was a terribly punishment for the baby. Like I said, nowhere in the same ballpark, but it's what I grew up with.

[dulwichmum]

Vile.

[Jah Lush]

Absolutely revolting. How despicable came you get? Fcuk religion and not just the catholic religion.

[snorky]

Anyone see that BBC2 doc. on Darwin last night ?

Seems some areas of the church have not moved on since the Oxford debate

peadophile scum

[Bizzy]

Gosh - how terrible and sad to hear how people can be so callous under such circumstances.

Not fair to knock all religions though.

Bizzy

[mockney piers]

I'm no Fidei Defensor, far from it in fact, but isn't paedophile scum a little harsh?

Be interesting to see how the ecclesiastical authorities react to this. They got it woefully wrong on that Bishop in Argentina, let's see if the arch-conservative pope wassisname can feck it up again.

Here's hoping.

[snorky]

Im going for the Sun / class war headline grabber on this as you may have worked out

[candj]

what a surprise.

[Moos]

How dreadful and inhumane, especially appalling to add to this child's suffering a sense of guilt and wrongdoing.

[snorky]

Apart from the untoucahble V.Mary, the whole catholic church structure effectively relegates women to somewhere just above Monkeys on the evolutionary scale - then again many religions follow the same path

a vile parasitic institution innit though

[????]

Revolting...

still I guess it's a step up for the Catholic Church not to be directly involved in the abuse..

unbelievable

[bigbadwolf]

RosieH Wrote:

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> Now might be the time for BBW to invoke king

> cnut.

What do you mean by this?

[RosieH]

Nothing to be offended by - think I'd remembered your having used the wording "cnut" elsewhere (although forgive me if I'm mistaken - had had some ale last night and didn't bother to do a search).

Was simply meaning that I felt that this was a circumstance that fully warrants that level of language.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

The tide has turned since BBW said "King cnut"..

[bigbadwolf]

Oh I wasn't offended Rosie just a bit puzzled as to what you meant.

Appart from the Archbishop the lawyer for Recife and Olinda Marcio Miranda is also a cnut of ocean going proportion for recommending a caesarean birth of twins from a body that at that age in a banana republic like Brazil has little chance of surviving.

[pk]

What I don?t get is why if the catholic church is so evil, being excommunicated is so bad?

And also why in a story with two villains ? one a priest who excommunicates some people from a church (whatever that actually means, I don?t really know) and one a stepfather who repeatedly abuses a stepchild, it?s the priest/church that is filth, disgusting, vile, revolting, despicable and peadophile scum?

(for the avoidance of doubt here, i don't think that the doctors or mother acting badly on the facts as i know them, but i think that using this story as an excuse for an outpouring of hatred against a faith followed by approx 1/6th of the world's population (to some degree) is a bit OTT)

[RosieH]

pk, I think it goes without saying that everyone on here thinks a rapist paedophile stepfather is disgusting scum.

What is even more shocking in this scenario is that the church, which should be a source of succour in times of crisis, is villifying the very people who are trying to help this child.

[pk]

RosieH Wrote:

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>

> What is even more shocking in this scenario is

> that the church, which should be a source of

> succour in times of crisis, is villifying the very

> people who are trying to help this child.

how is it a shock that the catholic church comes out against abortion?

[mockney piers]

I'm inclined to agree pk.

It's not unlike Jehova's witnesses who'd rather die than have a blood transfusion.

Religious rules aren't there to be broken by pathetic little things like compassion, humanity or logic, they are hard and fast things that result in heaven or hell.

Seen from that point of view it's we heathens who are stupid and doomed, and the archibishop who's trying to prevent more souls condemned to hell in future.

Can't have your cake and eat it you know.

Mind you fucking stupid cunts!!!!!!

[snorky]

pk Wrote:

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> What I don?t get is why if the catholic church is

> so evil, being excommunicated is so bad?

>

> And also why in a story with two villains ? one a

> priest who excommunicates some people from a

> church (whatever that actually means, I don?t

> really know) and one a stepfather who repeatedly

> abuses a stepchild, it?s the priest/church that is

> filth, disgusting, vile, revolting, despicable and

> peadophile scum?

>

> (for the avoidance of doubt here, i don't think

> that the doctors or mother acting badly on the

> facts as i know them, but i think that using this

> story as an excuse for an outpouring of hatred

> against a faith followed by approx 1/6th of the

> world's population (to some degree) is a bit OTT)

Yes, effectively forcing people to live their lives in abject fear of God and the chuch, and adhering to a dark ages outlook on life is such a plus point innit - those papal coffers dont fill themselves you know.

Hushing up sex abuse cases is probabaly another slur on a noble institution as well

And I wont even make any reference to the Lateran pact, cos that will invoke that law about calling someone a Nazi that some deluded fools think instantly devalues whatever point you may have made

And El papa isnt an ex Nazi either Im sure

OTT ?