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Nothing in my opinion Sherwick it's just that it should be carried out by the authorities and in the case of the two offenders being dicused they should be locked up for the rest of their lives being that when they leave it will be in a box. They should be locked up for 23 hours a day with no human contact for those 23 hours unless strictly nessecery. No T.V or any other form of entertainment. Soundproof cell. basic yet reasonable sanitary utilities. Strictky monitored to stop themselves doing themselves any harm (I want them to live out their incarceration for as long as possible) A very tiny window that gives them a very small glimpse of the world that is passing them by.


In effect, a living tomb.


I'm seriously struggling to get to grips with peoples lack of imagination regarding the conditions I've described above.


If someone killed a member of my family and I knew they were enduring the conditions I've described and was safe in the knowledge that they were never goin to be released I'd be content that justice had been done.

The "waste of effort and money" is a red herring... for the tiny proportion of crimes which would warrant a death sentence (e.g. in the U.S.) I don't think it's going to make any difference at all to the costs of the prison system.


Some people are assuming that the parents would like to see the murderers killed... maybe they do, who knows... but you shouldn't assume others share your values. Not everybody is driven by revenge.

bigbadwolf Wrote:

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>

> I don't mean to be rude but I didn't really

> understand the last two sentences of your first

> paragraph EDOldie.


No offence taken, and I think I've put what I meant very badly. I suppose what I was trying to say was that as a society we need more than punishment to deal with crime or we are not a society at all.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> The "waste of effort and money" is a red

> herring... for the tiny proportion of crimes which

> would warrant a death sentence (e.g. in the U.S.)

> I don't think it's going to make any difference at

> all to the costs of the prison system.

>

> Some people are assuming that the parents would

> like to see the murderers killed... maybe they do,

> who knows... but you shouldn't assume others share

> your values. Not everybody is driven by revenge.



I see the word revenge being tossed around as if revenge against such barbric and heinous crimes should never be considered. Well I tell you what if I was unforunate enough to be in the shoes of the parents of the students butchered by those evil bastards, I'd want them to suffer EXACTLY the same fate inflicted upon their victims. Yes it's revenge yes it's tit for tat yes it's an eye for an eye and I've no problem with that at all. I'm F**king sick and tired of all the naval gazing that goes on today, we hear so often about the pontification of the liberal bleeding hearts who bang on about the rights of the criminal and F**K the victim, ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH. I ain't no F**KING christian, nor do I believe in any other doctrine, but I certainly ain't prepared to turn the other F**KING cheek. Now to all of you who are anti capital punishemnt accept there are more & more people who want it brought back and the numbers are growing. IF THIS MAKES UNCOMRTABLE READING TOO F**KING BAD. Kill the c**ts and have done with them, pieces of garbage that they are. I make no apology for my views.

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

I see the word revenge being tossed around as if revenge against such barbric and heinous crimes should never be considered. Well I tell you what if I was unforunate enough to be in the shoes of the parents of the students butchered by those evil bastards, I'd want them to suffer EXACTLY the same fate inflicted upon their victims. Yes it's revenge yes it's tit for tat yes it's an eye for an eye and I've no problem with that at all. I'm F**king sick and tired of all the naval gazing that goes on today, we hear so often about the pontification of the liberal bleeding hearts who bang on about the rights of the criminal and F**K the victim, ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH. I ain't no F**KING christian, nor do I believe in any other doctrine, but I certainly ain't prepared to turn the other F**KING cheek. Now to all of you who are anti capital punishemnt accept there are more & more people who want it brought back and the numbers are growing. IF THIS MAKES UNCOMRTABLE READING TOO F**KING BAD. Kill the c**ts and have done with them, pieces of garbage that they are.


Absolutely.


There can't be many 40+ somethings who have lived thru' Decades and witnessed the decline of our standards and wonderful Society who would not agree with you.


Most certainly (almost) everyone who lives in a Community, where these Human pieces of filth reside, would endorse your views Atila.


These Guys need to be taken out of Society for ever by whatever means necessary.


I like BBW's idea of a living tomb but would prefer that after the perpetrators got stabbed 200 themselves and, somehow, survived.


"I make no apology for my views".....


Nor should you ever be defensive or apologetic about having them.


Quite frequently those of a more "liberal" persuasion in their 20's/30's have finally had enough by the time they get older and come around more to our way of thinking.

Atila Reincarnate Wrote:

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> Jeremy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > The "waste of effort and money" is a red

> > herring... for the tiny proportion of crimes

> which

> > would warrant a death sentence (e.g. in the

> U.S.)

> > I don't think it's going to make any difference

> at

> > all to the costs of the prison system.

> >

> > Some people are assuming that the parents would

> > like to see the murderers killed... maybe they

> do,

> > who knows... but you shouldn't assume others

> share

> > your values. Not everybody is driven by

> revenge.

>

>

> I see the word revenge being tossed around as if

> revenge against such barbric and heinous crimes

> should never be considered. Well I tell you what

> if I was unforunate enough to be in the shoes of

> the parents of the students butchered by those

> evil bastards, I'd want them to suffer EXACTLY the

> same fate inflicted upon their victims. Yes it's

> revenge yes it's tit for tat yes it's an eye for

> an eye and I've no problem with that at all. I'm

> F**king sick and tired of all the naval gazing

> that goes on today, we hear so often about the

> pontification of the liberal bleeding hearts who

> bang on about the rights of the criminal and F**K

> the victim, ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH. I ain't no

> F**KING christian, nor do I believe in any other

> doctrine, but I certainly ain't prepared to turn

> the other F**KING cheek. Now to all of you who are

> anti capital punishemnt accept there are more &

> more people who want it brought back and the

> numbers are growing. IF THIS MAKES UNCOMRTABLE

> READING TOO F**KING BAD. Kill the c**ts and have

> done with them, pieces of garbage that they are. I

> make no apology for my views.



Article 2 of the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union prohibits the practice of judical execution in time of peace, so however many people in the UK want to reinstate it, it isn't going to happen.

Blood lust solves or redresses nothing.


My father was murdered by terrorists,that they killed them selves offers nothing back to me. Would I want the death penalty.No it does not bring back a dead man. Is society better for it ,No it is a screen, it does not deter people from killing people, violating each other. If it really worked in the places still in it's thrall then why is it still necessary to apply it.


As a society we are tarnished by the death penalty, do we look at the American states that use it as visionary or trapped in a brutal & moral time warp.


The later is true, if you think anything other then ship out and move to one of those places. Put your money where your mouth is.

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